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ridethespiral, in Daily Telescope: Two galaxies colliding 300 million light-years from Earth

Wild that this from a hobbyist

ChicoSuave, in Is gravity instantaneous?

The answer is “Gravity moves at light speed.” To avoid the click bait title, here’s the punchline from the article:

The simplest and most convincing observation that gravity travels at the speed of light came in 2017, when both gravitational waves and light were observed from a merger of two neutron stars. Despite traveling more than 100 million light-years, the two signals arrived at Earth only 1.7 seconds apart! This means the speed of light and the speed of gravity differ by no more than 1 part in a quadrillion — in other words, they differ by no more than 0.0000000000001 percent.

lolcatnip,

To be really pedantic, gravity moves at the speed of light in a vacuum. OTOH my understanding of the speed of light in a medium is that it’s the result of photons being absorbed and re-emitted, and the speed of any individual photon is always exactly c. Personally, I’d prefer the convention that “the speed of light” without qualifiers always means c, but that ship appears to have sailed long ago.

ElectroNeutrino,

To add onto the pedantry, it’s only changes in gravity which propagate at the speed of light. A static gravitational field doesn’t need to propagate.

Sal,
@Sal@mander.xyz avatar

OTOH my understanding of the speed of light in a medium is that it’s the result of photons being absorbed and re-emitted, and the speed of any individual photon is always exactly c.

I am an experimentalist and so if a theoretician reads this they will probably tell you that I am wrong…

I think that the description of a photon being “absorbed” and “re-emitted” could be used to describe the picture from the point of view of quantum field theory (which I don’t claim understand), because within this theory the photon/electron and even electron/electron interactions are mediated by photons that are created and annihilated during those interactions. Whenever the “photon” exists it will travel with speed c. As light travels through a material it is traveling as a wave of electrons influencing each other, similar to how water waves travel through water, and since these interactions of the electrons pushing each other are formally described by the photons popping into and out of existence I think one could correctly use the language of “absorbed” and “re-emitted”.

But personally I think that it can be a bit confusing, because the absorption and emission of light by materials is often used to mean something very different… Absorption more commonly refers to a resonant interaction in which a photon is destroyed and a molecule (or atom, or crystal, etc…) comes into an excited state. The molecule that becomes excited can remain excited for quite a long time (usually picoseconds - microseconds), and the re-emission of the light often comes in a completely different direction and even a different wavelength than the original photon. So using the language of “absorption” and “emission” in this context can also generate confusion,.

Personally when I imagine the propagation of light through a material I think about it in terms of the polarizability of the medium. When the light propagates through a medium, you don’t need a “photon”. The wave is being carried by the electrons oscillating (these are very small oscillations - unless you are using powerful lasers, then you reach the beautiful world of non-linear optics). The speed of propagation of this wave through the medium depends on how far the wave can travel through the material with every oscillation. There is a nice description of this semi-classical process in the Feyman Lectures: www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/I_31.html

gravity moves at the speed of light in a vacuum

Hmmm… Always? Maybe some funky things happen as the wave passes by a black hole.

shalafi, in Saturn's Rings Will Temporarily Disappear From View in 2025

I’ll have to try the telescope! It’s not very powerful, but I know I’m on Saturn because it’s a clearly oblate blob. At that time, it’ll be a round blob?

ConfusedMeAgain, in Saturn's Rings Will Temporarily Disappear From View in 2025

Fascinating. Never knew this was a thing.

peanuts4life, in Is gravity instantaneous?
@peanuts4life@beehaw.org avatar

No.

aBundleOfFerrets, in Saturn's Rings Will Temporarily Disappear From View in 2025

very amusing. Thank you for posting op

TarquinNimrod, in Second-most distant galaxy discovered using James Webb Space Telescope

"Because the light from these galaxies had to travel for so long to reach Earth, it provides a window into the past. The research team estimates that the light detected by JWST was emitted by the two galaxies when the universe was about 330 million years old and traveled for about 13.4 billion light years to reach the JWST. But, the researchers said, the galaxies are currently closer to 33 billion light years away from Earth due to the expansion of the universe over this time. "

Pons_Aelius, in This AI robot chemist could make oxygen on Mars

Yet another example of "Add AI to all the things even when it is not relevant in any way".

Never thought I would look back on the days of block chain with fondness.

That said, the tech they are researching is quite interesting.

Geek_King, in 'Planet killer' asteroids are hiding in the sun's glare. Can we stop them in time?

Watch the documentary on Netflix called “Don’t Look Up” to find out the answer.

jdf038,

Great movie. Do NOT watch it stoned.

Or do. I’m not your boss.

shiveyarbles, in 'Planet killer' asteroids are hiding in the sun's glare. Can we stop them in time?

The great creator is like, " oh I see where this is going, these hairless monkeys made this orange dipshit their leader again… it’s time to reset…". Asteroids incoming.

Darkassassin07, in 'Planet killer' asteroids are hiding in the sun's glare. Can we stop them in time?
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

Should we stop them in time?

Just let it end. It’s for the better.

bored_boar_onboard, in Construction on NASA Mission to Map 450 Million Galaxies Is Under Way - NASA

This sounds like a really neat mission. I’m glad to hear that it’s moving forward.

Flyberius, in When NASA Used an RC Tiger II to Drill into Space Shuttle Tires -
@Flyberius@hexbear.net avatar

Was that Von Braun’s idea?

JillyB, in Astronauts dropped a tool bag during an ISS spacewalk, and you can see it with binoculars

I’ll bet a 10mm socket was in there. If so, it doomed the rest of the bag and NASA should have known better.

betz24, in Astronauts dropped a tool bag during an ISS spacewalk, and you can see it with binoculars

I’d curious if the astronaut was fined for space debris 🤣

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