Obvious that this is automated and will be going out to all subs. They definitely wouldn't go to bat to keep a piracy sub open, unless they're even dumber than I thought.
r/piracy after the IPO: piracy is unethical as it is stealing from the poor (companies). This is a community to discuss how to stop piracy and become responsible and dutiful consumers.
A Mod on the F1 sub was saying that Reddit Admins are threatening any subs that are closed by saying that any mods who are opposed to re-opening subs will be demoted with them being replaced with mods who are willing to co-operate.
It’s fascinating that they would let the r/Piracy sub be forced back, you’d think that it would be in their interest to let it stay shut as long as possible and quietly close it.
Whenever you see inserted words, please imagine an awkwardly moving but very colorful parrot squawking it.
The ability to find and make these connections prrrofits is incredibly important to many people ourrr sharrreholders, and ensuring that active communities are able to remain [a] stable and active (and open) source of prrrofits is very important forrr us!
Our goal here is to work with the existing mod team to find a path forward into exile and make sure your subreddit is usable for the community company which makes its home monnney here.
Make sure you remove any and all bots created, and delete all the custom work you did. Reddit can probably restore it, but it'll take them time and effort to do so.
So basically, according to Reddit, they own everything on Reddit. That means all the the CP, hate speech — and in this case, piracy — that are posted on Reddit are Reddit's responsibility. Bold strategy, cotton. They're basically waiving their net neutrality.
That means all the the CP, hate speech — and in this case, piracy — that are posted on Reddit are Reddit’s responsibility.
Of course not, from reddit’s ToS: “By submitting Your Content to the Services, you represent and warrant that you have all rights, power, and authority necessary to grant the rights to Your Content contained within these Terms. Because you alone are responsible for Your Content, you may expose yourself to liability if you post or share Content without all necessary rights.
You retain any ownership rights you have in Your Content, but you grant Reddit the following license to use that Content:
When Your Content is created with or submitted to the Services, you grant us a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable, and sublicensable license to use, copy, modify, adapt, prepare derivative works of, distribute, store, perform, and display Your Content and any name, username, voice, or likeness provided in connection with Your Content in all media formats and channels now known or later developed anywhere in the world. This license includes the right for us to make Your Content available for syndication, broadcast, distribution, or publication by other companies, organizations, or individuals who partner with Reddit. You also agree that we may remove metadata associated with Your Content, and you irrevocably waive any claims and assertions of moral rights or attribution with respect to Your Content.” --https://www.redditinc.com/policies/user-agreement-september-12-2021
Does this, from a legal standpoint, absolve them of what is hosted on their servers? Especially when they just took steps to make sure it is open for bussiness?
Not a lawyer, so not sure how enforceable reddit’s ToS is, but the TL;DR (as I read it) is “you’re responsible for everything you post; reddit owns it.”
Section 230 (often called the 26 words that created the internet) reads:
No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider.
I’m also not a lawyer so I have no clue what the ramifications for this are, but I’m guessing that Reddit isn’t liable for stuff people upload as long as the illegal stuff gets removed.
If Reddit undeletes a post, could they be treated as the publisher? At the very least it sounds not very good-samaritan-y of them to do that, so maybe they wouldn’t be protected in that case.
BTW, the supreme court heard a few cases centered around section 230 a few months ago! And Biden called for it to be reformed! So depending on how that goes, the internet could get shaken up soon. We’re in some interesting times.
That's their TOS. Their actions recently — namely undeleting user posts and comments — run directly counter to their TOS. They're essentially claiming ownership of the user submitted content by doing that.
They’re essentially claiming ownership of the user submitted content by doing that.
Reddit reserves all the rights to everything you post ("When Your Content is created with or submitted to the Services, you grant us a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable, etc., etc.), but you alone are responsible for it (“Because you alone are responsible for Your Content, you may expose yourself to liability if you post or share Content without all necessary rights.”).
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