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thingsiplay, to tech in ‘Terminator’ Director James Cameron On The Rise Of AI: “I Warned You Guys In 1984 & You Didn’t Listen”
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@stopthatgirl7 Stanley Kubrick warned us in 1968 with 2001: A Space Odyssey.

TimeMuncher, to tech in ‘Terminator’ Director James Cameron On The Rise Of AI: “I Warned You Guys In 1984 & You Didn’t Listen”

When you tell someone not to push the button what do you think will happen?

pinwurm, to moviesandtv in Samuel L. Jackson Claims Strange Film Editing May Have Cost Him Academy Award Consideration
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At some point, he deserves a lifetime achievement award from the academy.

SJ0,

I AM MOTHERFUCKING ACCEPTING THIS MOTHERFUCKING OSCAR!

hglman,

like 3 of them

QHC,
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For what, appearing in a bunch of films as himself?

freamon, to moviesandtv in “We Are Not Going To Have The UK Used As A Backdoor To Undermine SAG,” Says British Equity Boss On Eve Of London Rally

Narrator: the UK was used as a backdoor to undermine SAG

zuhayr,
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Where can I get the “out of the loop” details?

freamon,

I mean, it depends how “in the loop” you want to be. I was mainly thinking about how shows like “Industry” and “House of the Dragon” are still filming, with British actors who are part of Equity. UK actors have no legal standing to strike in solidarity, so all Equity can do is make the right noises, as the leader appears to be doing in this article.

SpunkyBarnes, to moviesandtv in Sony CEO Tony Vinciquerra Says Offer To SAG-AFTRA Was “Best Ever Made” — AVP Summit

With how many poison pills inside?

See posts from Will Wheaton and others on what creative accounting does to residual income. Ronald Reagan must be spinning like a top ATM.

HobbitFoot,

You just have to sign over your likeness forever.

Riyria,

Former Republican U.S. President Ronald Reagan certainly isn’t. He’s relishing in watching workers get fucked and having their rights stripped away.

Actor and former Democratic SAG President Ronald Reagan on the other hand.

SpunkyBarnes,

Yeah, I was thinking the latter, but the former’s more realistic.

NOT_RICK,
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Didn’t realize he was sag president. I was sitting here thinking “the guy is who busted the air traffic controllers union is upset?”

Riyria,

Yep that’s the irony. He wasn’t even anti abortion until he ran for president. Even if he didn’t actually believe in the bullshit he spouted as president, him selling his soul is still a major reason why the United States is marathoning itself towards a Fascist dictatorship.

vegivamp, to moviesandtv in Sony CEO Tony Vinciquerra Says Offer To SAG-AFTRA Was “Best Ever Made” — AVP Summit
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Hey, Tony, I’ll give you five bucks and a swift kick in the nuts for Sony. It’s the best offer I ever made for it!

SJ0, to moviesandtv in Sony CEO Tony Vinciquerra Says Offer To SAG-AFTRA Was “Best Ever Made” — AVP Summit

I suspect this is occurring because everyone knows establishment media is dying and people are trying to get the nicest deck chair on the titanic.

demesisx,
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It’s happening because inflation happens and things increase in price. If wages don’t keep pace, that raise is now a pay cut.

SJ0,

If that’s all it was, then they’d be able to pop out a pay increase and end things. There’s a lot of other stuff on the table.

vladmech,

Yeah it was great getting my 3% cost of living bump this year while inflation was 7%. Basically got a pay cut by working here.

demesisx,
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I’ve been vocal about our union tying our wage increases directly to inflation (or making them AT LEAST follow inflation). Some members (that also happen to own multiple houses) say that’s a “dumb idea”. 🤷🏻‍♂️

vladmech,

Gotta love people pulling the ladder up behind them

RocksForBrains, to moviesandtv in Samuel L. Jackson Claims Strange Film Editing May Have Cost Him Academy Award Consideration

That’s a pretty big departure. Changes a lot of the context by axing the scenes where he helps the daughter understand what he’s done.

jungekatz, to moviesandtv in Sony CEO Tony Vinciquerra Says Offer To SAG-AFTRA Was “Best Ever Made” — AVP Summit

I wish they go down the drains with shit like this !

DpwnShift, (edited ) to moviesandtv in Samuel L. Jackson Claims Strange Film Editing May Have Cost Him Academy Award Consideration
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I love SLJ, but what a (public) temper-tantrum. I realize actors often have unique personalities and that he’s earned a lot of his success… But he’s also operating at some of the highest levels of privilege, wealth, fame, and adoration. And that’s not enough for him…?

A lot of actors think they have been snubbed by the Academy (some rightly so). But to publicly blame your directors and editors comes across as very whiney and is unprofessional. If he wants control over how something turns out, he should direct something, but currently that’s not his job.

Uncle_Iroh,

?? My man. Would you not want the recognition for your work that you deserve?

DpwnShift,
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deserve

Yes, that’s a good way to put it. He basically thinks he deserves an award, and the many people who vote for them do not. They could be wrong, they could be biased, there could have been a lot of performances that just barely surpassed him that year, etc etc. But he’s not entitled to an award, no one is! And again, I would argue he has been recognized for his work in many ways.

If you disagree, that’s fine, but you shouldn’t use straw-man arguments. I had several points in my comment and “he shouldn’t want to be recognized” was not one of them.

Bipta,

Nothing in this article suggests he thinks he deserved the award. What he thinks he deserved was to have his work showcased so that he could be considered, and that's entirely reasonable.

Uncle_Iroh,

He’s saying that excessive editing has dulled down his work. That’s his complaint.

Bendavisunlv6,

Laughing and pointing at the guy who expects sunshine and rainbows from Samuel L Jackson :D

Kichae,

But he’s also operating at some of the highest levels of privilege, wealth, fame, and adoration. And that’s not enough for him…?

He's talking about the Academy Awards. You know, little gold statues for being famous enough at playing make believe to be noticed, and and good enough at it to be considered as one of the best of the well known.

If there's anything the rich, privileged actors can publicly whinge about, it's probably this.

lnsfw3,

Ironically, it looks like this article has been edited to make seem like SLJ is angry, but he understands the decision:

But, he said, “That s— is not in the movie! And I know why it’s not. Because it wasn’t my movie, and they weren’t trying to make me a star.”

Tone is important, so maybe he was frothing at the mouth when he said it, but I read that as him disliking the decision but understanding it.

platysalty,

In this case, I think that scene with the wallet really isn't helping his public image

demesisx, to moviesandtv in Sony CEO Tony Vinciquerra Says Offer To SAG-AFTRA Was “Best Ever Made” — AVP Summit
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Of course it was. That’s the nature of contracts. They are designed to allow workers to (hopefully) keep pace with inflation. By their very nature, contracts get better and better.

Ps. Also, how is “let us capture your likeness and use it forever as a skin for a CG puppet” the “best ever”?

exohuman,
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Yeah, AI is killing tons of jobs, but there is no reason to let it without a fight.

another_lemming, to moviesandtv in Sony CEO Tony Vinciquerra Says Offer To SAG-AFTRA Was “Best Ever Made” — AVP Summit

“We entered the talks intending to make a deal,” he said. “There have been lots of headlines saying the opposite, but that is not true. We want to get this done and we want on get back into negotiations…We need to get this settled. We want to get back around the table.”

I smell his ass burning. Let give it another round in a microwave. Protesters are scarying a shitty person for once.

Bendavisunlv6, to moviesandtv in Samuel L. Jackson Claims Strange Film Editing May Have Cost Him Academy Award Consideration

Editing is so impactful on the final, delivered performance that I’m surprised I’ve never heard something like this before.

freamon,

One of the reasons that editing is not acknowledged for its pivotal role in the final film is that - in the past, at least - its a role largely done by women.

ShroOmeric,

Was it really? I had no idea…

Didros,

Didn’t George Lucas’s wife get an Oscar for editing Star Wars?

freamon,

We should probably refer to her as Marcia Lucas, but yes, I believe she did.

Speaking of women’s work being under-valued, and the Oscars, there’s no award for Casting (also mainly done by women), and yet audiences are more likely to notice if someone’s being mis-cast, rather than they are badly-directed.

Didros,

Thank you, I can never remember her name. Costume design is only recently starting to become valued as well I feel. Are there other areas where women struggle to be recognized in the industry? I assume stunt work is a big one.

freamon,

Casting and Editing are the biggies, I think. Obviously there’s also the struggle for women to get the roles that are valued (e.g. Director)

Didros,

What about careers on the fringes like speech coaches for actors and things like that. Do we ever actually praise those people? Wouldn’t be surprised to learn that was majority women too.

freamon,

There’s likely something in that. The reason why Rebecca Ferguson has a wonky accent in SILO (to use a recent example) isn’t Ferguson’s fault, it’s the producers not investing the time or money in getting her coached.

Bendavisunlv6,

That’s surprising, since it’s such an important part of the creative work. I would guess that it was relegated to women and undervalued because it probably involved a great deal of manual work back in the day - splicing film and so on. I hope we’re talking about a long time ago, anyway. It’s certainly a recognized role now. The only film editor I know in the business (at Pixar) is a woman, fwiw.

freamon,

involved a great deal of manual work back in the day - splicing film and so on

I think that’s the reason, yeah

Cagi, to moviesandtv in Brian Cox, Imelda Staunton, Simon Pegg & More Join UK Equity Rally In Support Of SAG-AFTRA

I worked as an extra in Canada. Scab work is half the jobs, especially for commercials. You sign NDAs to keep it secret.

mancy,
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Ok…and? You shouldn’t be proud of working as a scab.

Cagi,

I didn’t take those jobs, but thanks for the unnecessary hostility.

Cagi, to moviesandtv in “We Are Not Going To Have The UK Used As A Backdoor To Undermine SAG,” Says British Equity Boss On Eve Of London Rally

I worked as an extra in Canada. Scab work is half the jobs, especially for commercials. You sign NDAs to keep it secret from the US unions.

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