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misk, to europe in Europe’s telephone operators repeated demands that Google, Apple, and other Silicon Valley giants pay them a “fair share” to beam their data, but opposition is mounting
@misk@sopuli.xyz avatar

They pay through their ISPs who then pay through peering agreements. Whats next, my friend’s ISP charging me to deliver him an email? Let’s make it like in the US where you’re charged for receiving SMS.

Fuck off.

LesserAbe, to europe in Europe’s telephone operators repeated demands that Google, Apple, and other Silicon Valley giants pay them a “fair share” to beam their data, but opposition is mounting

I don’t get the argument. I pay a telecom for service, I expect them to deliver whichever data I request. It doesn’t matter where it originates, that’s what I’m paying for. It shouldn’t be dependent on whether some third party has coughed up or not.

noobdoomguy8658,
@noobdoomguy8658@feddit.de avatar

It’s just another way to make the line go up on another meeting, no proper reason, concern, or substance.

Chup,

Every data gets even paid twice. The sender has an internet service contract and pays, the receiver does as well.

You opening some Lemmy post and requesting data, has the server owner pay via his hoster contract and you pay for the same data packet via your ISP monthly fee.

Now they are asking for a 3rd payment (once again). Why even stop at 3? Just ask for 4 or 5 payments and then meet in the middle at 3.

HubertManne,
@HubertManne@kbin.social avatar

it is actually 4 because its two at both ends.

kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E, to ukraine in "There can be no peace with Russia, just as there could have been no peace with Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan in 1945," says researcher

Trying to negociate with Pootin be like

Rose, to ukraine in "There can be no peace with Russia, just as there could have been no peace with Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan in 1945," says researcher

You don’t have to be a researcher to understand that. Just don’t be Elon Musk.

0x815,

You don’t have to be a researcher to understand that.

Absolutely right, but it’s nevertheless important to repeat that over and again.

alvvayson,

Pootin probably has compromat on Elon. Rumor is that back in the early 00s when he was looking to buy a rocket in Russia, the FSB enticed him with a minor.

They also have compromat on Trump.

Can’t know for sure, but the fact is that Elon is risking a nationalisation of SpaceX right now and I find it hard to imagine he sympathizes hard enough with the Russians to lose SpaceX.

HopeOfTheGunblade,
@HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social avatar

You know, even granting the hypothesis that someone wanted to fuck a minor (and such people obviously exist, it's not a major stretch) why in the fuck would you do it in Russia where they have a long and illustrious history of honey trapping fools?

Oh.

When asked correctly, it really kind of answers itself, huh.

alvvayson,

You don’t understand how compromat works.

The KGB doesn’t say: hey, want to fuck a minor on cam?

They might use seduction, flattery.

Fuck, they might even just use a very petite 20 year old and give her a fake passport proving she’s actually 15. Or maybe use a body double.

The KGB have perfected their art.

HopeOfTheGunblade,
@HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social avatar

Don't fuck in Russia.

admiralteal,

I think we need to stop overestimating dictators and engaging in this kind of conspiracy so much.

Putin isn't a chessmaster. He's a strongman. People around him fall in line because they rightfully fear violent retribution.

People overseas that take pro-Russia stances do so for the same reason they cleave to any conservative politics -- they're grumpy, unskeptical simpletons. Musk and Trump are not victims of Putin's grand strategy. They're just bad people.

GreenMario,

Not just fear, they love strongmen. Women get fucking wet over the confidence and men want to be him.

It’s stupid human Bullshit and should be shamed for simping at every opportunity.

SwagaliciousSR,

I agree, Putin/Russia having kompromat on everyone and everything, while based on some kind of historical truth, is absulutley an overblown conspiracy.

As far as trump goes, I personally believe “probably” not in a pp tape way, as if those ever existed, we would have seen them by now. I absolutley believe Putin had hard paper trails/evidence that trump was, and still is massively inflating his net worth, and all the weird bank stuff in the EU

admiralteal,

Fundamentally, we do not live in an era where personal secrets can be kept. If someone knows about it enough to blackmail you, then it's going to get out.

And even then, it doesn't matter. These people are immune to blackmail. If you think about it at all, it doesn't make sense. Blackmailing Trump? What does that even mean? He'll just say it's fake news and lies, that any evidence is proof of a conspiracy against him. That any prosecution is a corrupt witch hunt led by his enemies.

What POSSIBLE evidence could we have that would change the minds of the American people about him?

  • A history of sexual abuse perversion, and rape? Already a matter of record.
  • Shady financial dealings? Again, we already know it -- and a prosecution is underway for some of the specifics that may yet sink his organization (but, notably, will probably do little to him personally).
  • Attempts to subvert American Democracy and elevate racism and bigotry? He's proud of that.
  • Individual fraud and larceny? His supporters think it's totally fine for him to give all his kin cushy government jobs they are unqualified for and to force the CIA to pay for deluxe packages in his hotels.
  • Implicate his family? He doesn't give a shit about them and is the entire reason they're involved in any case. The abused abuse.
  • Grand, national corruption and treason? He proudly accepts the Saudi money and makes public requests for help from the Russian intelligence services.

Anyone who hasn't already 100% made up their mind about Trump is too much a fool to have new evidence changing their perspective at this point. And the story with a Musk type is barely any different.

realitista,

Russia has a satellite that’s capable of downing other satellites. I think Putin threatened to screw up starlink.

altasshet,

I don’t think that would work. Individual Starlink satellites are cheap, and they launch dozens at a time.

alvvayson,

Yes, shoot down an American satellite.

Lol, they would never dare. That would require a very heavy handed response by the USA.

bleistift2, to ukraine in "There can be no peace with Russia, just as there could have been no peace with Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan in 1945," says researcher

As a German, I agree. When I was a child, I also wondered why no-one had taken care of North Korea yet. Then I learned about protector states.

Thisfox, to ukraine in Behind the Lines: Teaching Crimeans to Speak Ukrainian Again

Trained teachers are in short supply around the world, good to know they are proactively training teachers for language lessons when Ukrainian people are free to learn the language of their homeland without punishment from the Russians.

wolf6152, to ukraine in Behind the Lines: Teaching Crimeans to Speak Ukrainian Again

So no matter what side wins, you’re going to a reeducation camp. Awesome……

awwwyissss,

Mandatory classes for government workers isn’t anything like a reeducation camp, and what Ukraine is doing isn’t anything like what Russia is doing.

Are you spreading Kremlin propaganda on purpose?

0x815,

<a href="">@wolf6152</a>

So no matter what side wins, you’re going to a reeducation camp. Awesome……

Ukrainians are breaking their ties with the Russian language

In Kharkiv, a historically Russian-speaking city in eastern Ukraine, just 25 miles from the Russian border, Ukrainian classes are in high demand. Waiters, hairdressers and shopkeepers have stopped using Russian. Ukrainian language books are flying off the shelves, and local publishers are struggling to keep up with orders.

One of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s central — and false — justifications for invading Ukraine, that he was defending Russian-speaking people, has backfired dramatically.

In cities across Ukraine, people started bringing their Russian literature to local recycling stations to be shredded and converted into toilet paper. Street names have been changed to honor Ukrainian heroes instead of Russian writers. Russian dishes, like pelmeni dumplings, have been relabeled on restaurant menus. Radio stations stopped playing songs by Russian artists, long popular in Ukraine.

Tweak, to random in UK backed away from breaking end-to-end encryption in its new Online Safety Bill. Although privacy advocates are celebrating, their victory is far from complete.

My understanding is they’ve done bugger all. MP’s behind the bill have merely said they won’t use the provision, primarily because there is no sufficient technical means to do so, but the wording of the bill hasn’t changed.

If the bill goes through as is then businesses may be compelled to create the means to do so, regardless of it breaking encryption - maybe they won’t do it right away, but they’ll have the perogative under law. It wouldn’t be too much more effort to throw in a gag order and prevent public disclosure. I’m sure Signal and a few others would kick up a stink and leave if they were targeted, but I could see Facebook and Google signing up, for a price. Hell I’d be more surprised if WhatsApp didn’t already have backdoors.

Burn_The_Right, to europe in ‘Woe to My Enemies’ Rages Russia’s Mouthpiece-in-Chief

And “woe” right back at you, dipshitski.

luthis, to europe in Portugal steps off the Silk Road, the EU member is the latest European nation reassessing its relationship with communist China

State capitalist.

ShroOmeric, to europe in Portugal steps off the Silk Road, the EU member is the latest European nation reassessing its relationship with communist China

Great! Fuck the CCP.

luthis,

and their 9 dash line.

GlitchyDigiBun,
@GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Choke the wolf. His words are poison.

WhatAmLemmy,

Maybe we shouldn’t ally with genocidal regimes, including Israel and the nationalists/nazi’s at home?

Don’t be or support murderers? It’s almost too simple. Someone should maybe start a religion and include that in the “thou shalt not” part… That’ll stop em!

qyron, to europe in Russia’s Sinister Gas Doll, new deal between Turkey and Bulgaria may be a backdoor for more Russian gas to reach Europe

So, essentialy blockade breaking, through non hostile nations.

khannie, to europe in Russia’s Sinister Gas Doll, new deal between Turkey and Bulgaria may be a backdoor for more Russian gas to reach Europe
@khannie@lemmy.world avatar

The last sentence in that article is perhaps the most important…

“Turkey’s deals with Bulgaria and Hungary astutely avoid any mention of the source of gas.”

tetraodon,

Hungary and Bulgaria once again trying so hard to prove they don’t belong in the EU

federalreverse, to europe in Russia’s Sinister Gas Doll, new deal between Turkey and Bulgaria may be a backdoor for more Russian gas to reach Europe
@federalreverse@feddit.de avatar

tldr: Russia is attempting to use Turkey for distributing fossil gas in the EU similarly to how they use India for distributing oil in the EU.

Generic_Handel, to ukraine in Ukraine — Victory Is Closer Than You Think

Yeah, once the M14 highway comes within artillery range things are going to get interesting.

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