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StorageB, to technology in Exclusive: Here's our first look at the Fairphone 5

How is the software experience with Fairphone? Is it generally pretty stable and bug free?

unix_joe,
@unix_joe@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Android 12 still, and that just came a few months ago.

It's a minimal stock Android without any protection against pocket dialing or ghost touches. And updates are slow to come, although I think we are finally on the third month of consistent monthly updates. aptX is a shitshow at the best, broken at the worst, so bluetooth music listening isn't great, which is not a good thing for a device that got rid of the 3.5mm jack.

You are better off using CalyxOS on the Fairphone, which fixes all of those problems, except it doesn't have true Google Play services.

snowbell, to technology in Exclusive: Here's our first look at the Fairphone 5
@snowbell@beehaw.org avatar

Now if we could just get them in the USA...

Mummelpuffin,
@Mummelpuffin@beehaw.org avatar

At the same time, I kind of respect their conviction to only sell in Europe where they don't need to participate in global shipping to the same extent, and don't need to grow unsustainably. We want something like the Fairphone? Someone here has got to make it.

NickHackman, to android in Google Pixel 8 leak points to desktop mode support, DisplayPort over USB-C
@NickHackman@lemmy.world avatar

It's a cool feature, but I don't know when I'd need/want it.

Anyone who uses Samsung Dex do you use it often? When? Why?

Batbro,

I keep a lapdock in a quick go bag for the weekend or when I'm at my desk without my computer.

I like dex, 80% of my computer usage is just Internet or quick server commands.

My wife handles her YouTube channel 100% from her phone and having the option for a bigger screen for some task is great.

I never understood why Google disabled display out via USBC, it comes built in on most chips.

JWBananas,
@JWBananas@kbin.social avatar

Doesn't that require USB 3.x? Some of the Pixels have been USB-C 2.0.

Probably also requires wiring up the correct lanes from the chipset and possibly even paying the manufacturer for that feature.

iturnedintoanewt,

They come correctly assigned from the chip manufacturer. The manufacturer supports DisplayPort over USB-C, and Google removed the code in their implementation.

Drinvictus,

I use Samsung Dex as a daily driver basically. I’m a doctor and I use it to review patient charts on Epic. I also fully transitioned to Google docs+reworks for working on publications. It’s so easy to set up wherever I go. Amazing battery life and incredibly lightweight.

gk99,

Tbh I usually just use it to play games on a bigger screen with a Bluetooth controller when I'm bored, Nintendo Switch style. There are plenty of console-style mobile games + streaming services that can make it a pretty good time killer if I'm the only one in a waiting room or something.

lp0101, to android in Google Pixel 8 leak points to desktop mode support, DisplayPort over USB-C

This sounds pretty exciting actually.

I'd love it for coding on the sofa if i could pull out a laptop shell and just plug my phone into it to fire up VSCode.

breakerfall, to android in Google Pixel 8 leak points to desktop mode support, DisplayPort over USB-C

I'll believe it when I see it. Took them 8 versions to do something that's in AOSP?

iturnedintoanewt,

.... Something the chipset supports. They actually removed the code that enabled it on the Pixel phones, it's kinda ridiculous.

WidowsFavoriteSon, to android in 7 things the Google Pixel Tablet does better than my iPad Air

Cool but I'll wait for LineageOS support.

quortez, to android in Google Pixel 8 leak points to desktop mode support, DisplayPort over USB-C
@quortez@kbin.social avatar

8 years to not-remove a part of the spec AOSP supports natively.
8 freaking years to develop a solution for native video-out that isn't the confusing, low-quality, barely recognized DisplayLink.
8 goddamn years to admit to themselves that Chromecast mirroring is a dog shit alternative to DP-AltMode.

But 8 years hopefully come to an end.

HubertManne, to tech in Google is about to make life more difficult for custom ROM fans
@HubertManne@kbin.social avatar

Isn't this what forking is for?

parrot-party,
@parrot-party@kbin.social avatar

Yes but it's going to be hard to keep up with Google in a fork.

BentiGorlich,
@BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de avatar

It doesnt have to. It just has to work...

TwilightVulpine,

The way they have been handling older apps, "just working" would already be better than what they offer.

xavier666, to tech in Google is about to make life more difficult for custom ROM fans

Google doing what Google does best

blackbrook,

Not not being evil.

Sneptaur, to tech in Google is about to make life more difficult for custom ROM fans
@Sneptaur@pawb.social avatar

Embrace. Extend. Extinguish.

kbity, to tech in Google is about to make life more difficult for custom ROM fans
@kbity@kbin.social avatar

At this point it's just a countdown until Google winds down AOSP altogether and takes its whole mobile OS proprietary.

sadreality,

I am sure they are watching RedHat playbook closely.

These clowns need to be broken up. Enough is enough.

Countmacula,
@Countmacula@kbin.social avatar

They are absolutely watching redhat.

I expect an announcement within the next year.

Neon,

oh god, please no, mobile Linux is not yet ready 😩
and i say that as a hardcore NixOS-User

kbity,
@kbity@kbin.social avatar

Yeah, I've been watching the mobile Linux space with interest but it's definitely not in a place yet where I would consider using it as anything more than a novelty. The PinePhone is a neat little piece of hardware but no way it can replace my LineageOS phone right now.

sado1,

Looks like the ecosystem still needs another year or two, but it's going forward steadily.

tal, (edited )
@tal@kbin.social avatar

I was vaguely wondering how hard it would be to use a GNU/Linux laptop as a phone. If you always carry a laptop, that's more-reasonable than it might seem, and that opens things up hardware-wise a lot. There are at least three obstacles:

  • The touch-oriented app infrastructure is stronger on smartphone OSes.
  • Laptops aren't as good at idling power-wise as phones. You want to be able to listen for calls without consuming a lot of power.
  • Apparently, while you can get 5G modems for laptops, getting one for a computer that can do voice service is not an option today. You can do VoIP or something, but I suspect that you're looking at a latency hit then.
kbity,
@kbity@kbin.social avatar

Can they at least handle texting? A lot of services require SMS-based 2FA (insecure as it is) these days, so a phone that can't receive texts is a complete non-starter.

tal, (edited )
@tal@kbin.social avatar

I don't know that off-the-top-of-my-head, but I would guess that with normal voice service the modem may well also handle texts, as at least historically, I believe the SMSes went over space in some sort of command channel separate from the per-active-phone timeslice reserved for voice.

However, you could hypothetically get SMS service and relay that to a your laptop-phone over IP from some service that provides VoIP service. With SMSes, unlike with voice, the latency shouldn't really matter.

Johanno,

How hard is it to transform the steam deck into a phone? I mean the Software is still missing, but with enough Power you can emulate apps.

tal,
@tal@kbin.social avatar

Well, for starters, it doesn't have a 5G modem, which is probably kind of going to be a basic want for a phone.

anselmschueler,
@anselmschueler@kbin.social avatar

It seems to me that that might seriously deter third-party Android distributors—AFAIK most do not ship stock Google apps for all the basic utilities, they only ship the auxiliary ones like Gmail or Docs.

pgetsos, to tech in Google is about to make life more difficult for custom ROM fans
@pgetsos@kbin.social avatar

They have been doing it app by app for a decade. Nothing new to see here, wonder when they'll deprecate Android altogether

nobodyspecial, to tech in Google is about to make life more difficult for custom ROM fans
@nobodyspecial@kbin.social avatar

OK Google, you win. I capitulate. Next phone is going to be Apple. If it's locked down, low customization walled garden either way I'd rather something with trade in value and a bit of snob appeal.

PabloDiscobar, (edited )
@PabloDiscobar@kbin.social avatar

Or just don't buy a phone. The resources required to build a phone are literally destroying our planet. I wish I was exaggerating.

nobodyspecial,
@nobodyspecial@kbin.social avatar

Wish I could, and I'm completely with you on both manufacturing and mining needed to enable our phone addictions. But I need it to function in modern society, much like my car or industrially farmed food. Being reachable and being able to reach out 24x7 is now an expectation. I don't have the practiced skills to be useful as an agrarian, and not being into religion I'm pretty sure the Amish wouldn't take me in.

Once the not-user-serviceable battery dies or hardware start to glitch at around 2 years of age a replacement is mandatory for me. Apple's phones seem to be designed for a service life of 3-4 years rather than 1-2, so that may be a way to help.

eltimablo,

Even the Amish have phones these days.

PabloDiscobar, to tech in Google is about to make life more difficult for custom ROM fans
@PabloDiscobar@kbin.social avatar

But...but.... Isn't AOSP open source? Did someone lie to me? Just restore the functions! Right? Am I right?

Or was Google just exploiting people believing that they were participating to an open source project?

This news serves as perhaps further evidence of AOSP’s reduced significance, as Google seeks to tie more and more previously open-source features behind its own proprietary frameworks and services.

Surprise motherfuckers! \o/

GloopTamer, to tech in Google is about to make life more difficult for custom ROM fans
@GloopTamer@discuss.online avatar

Because Android users notoriously complain about their OS not being completely locked down with zero freedom whatsoever!

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