Dude, their existence prevents the meaningful enforcement of the law. Literally anyone else could do a better job than some thug caste which only pretends to enforce law but doesn’t.
For those watching at home, what this bootlicker is doing is sealioning. It involves asking questions for which the answers will never be satisfactory while pretending to be nice and civil.
His line of reasoning is this:
These stupid fucking liberals have no plan for what to do after the police are removed
So let’s ask them what do we do afterward?
Then we either deconstruct every answer they provide or call them out on having no answer
Then disingenuously dismiss the idea of getting rid of police as ill thought out and immature when we never had any intention of conceding the point to begin with, because we want police to continue subjugating and abusing people, because we are bigots
Because their justification for having police is:
The people are not capable or mature enough to conduct criminal investigations, arrest suspects or humanely punish them (even though that’s literally what humanity has been doing for thousands of years and the institution of police has proven itself wholly incapable of those tasks and even worse, directly causing and enabling the crime it’s supposedly there to mitigate, and the prison system the police run is completely fucking inhumane)
Therefore the people need an institution of professionals to do it for them (even though police are not trained to conduct formal investigations, forensic science is not a legitimate science at all and is completely broken at best, and humanity has again managed to exist thousands of years in peace and happiness without thug castes and only suffer when they are there)
And ignoring the fact that bootlickers like him are deeply insulting the intelligence of everyone else in the discussion and this clown is clearly NOT being nice at all because he’s advocating for your brutal subjugation under the jackboot of sadistic racists that only want to bully, abuse, rape and murder you, other individuals have already answered the question effectively, so why am I going to entertain scum like him?
So here’s what I am gonna say to him instead:
How about instead of wasting our time sealioning to push a line of reasoning designed to manipulate our fears and put down our self esteem and self worth in order to convince us to accept an obviously failed institution that causes nothing but harm and abuses us in horrific ways, you take your fake attitude and go fuck yourself with it?
We need a complete overhaul of society and an educated population to help reduce the incentive to commit crime in the first place, then use the wonders of the high technology we have to make investigating crimes easier for everybody so we can go back to taking control of our own streets again.
It’d take a lot of work to do it, but it’s better than submitting to actual fucking fascism and tyranny because we convince ourselves we’re not capable and need others to do the job of protecting each other for us.
You’d think if they actually were asking in good faith, they’d scroll down to talk to the guy who actually does answer the question at length, but they don’t, so it’s obvious they’re not actually interested.
The bigots dictate the law now and everyone lets them because no one wants to overthrow those evil local governments, not even legally through elections.
Or more worryingly, used as an excuse by cops to stop any woman they want whenever they want on suspicion they’re trying to get an abortion.
And then they can force women to take pregnancy tests on the spot, which will require stripping for giving urine samples, giving police plausible deniability to rape whoever they want.
So in principle, if you get sued over this by an abusive spouse, he could:
Never tell you
Hide the mail
Show up to court that day and you don’t
Cackle maniacally as the judge signs a bench warrant for his victim’s arrest she doesn’t know about
He now can get her thrown in jail whenever she acts up, e.g. runs away or fights back
The legal system is now his personal army
And we pretend that democracy, rule of law and the legal system is supposed to be capable of protecting innocent people from abusers and preventing tyranny. We pretend it was ever even able to, let alone willing.
They don’t. Even when it starts ruining lives and loved ones start disappearing, they won’t give a shit.
They want this. They want others to do anything they want so long as they aren’t inconvenienced or hurt, and if they are, as long as they aren’t rendered homeless, and even then, as long as they aren’t imprisoned.
They are cowed through decades of propaganda, ready for the slaughter.
Abusers will just lie and tell the judge they gave notice and the courts never listen when defendants claim they never got any. It’s always assumed to be a lie, hence bench warrants.
Or just threaten her or otherwise stop her from showing up. Bonus points if he slips opiates into her drink, she passes out and misses the court date, and he then accuses her of being a drug addict.
You really don’t know anything about how abuse works if you’re seriously questioning this.
That guy is a bootlicker. He was using disingenuous politeness to attack some dumb tankie earlier and now he’s in here being a contrarian to anyone openly opposing the state. It’s not about abortion for him. He doesn’t want anyone advocating doing something about those motherfuckers because he wants the system in place right or wrong.
In a video on Oct. 13, Instagram influencer and photojournalist Motaz Azaiza shared footage of the rubble of an apartment, the site of an Israeli bombardment that killed 15 of his family members....
This is the sort of thing that freedom of speech is supposed to protect, but that idea has become so completely destroyed by Western people that I don’t see any hope for people like that poor influencer.
He’ll have to make his own website, or move to PixelFed or something.
I’m trying to figure out what difference it even makes who was killed and where. It’s not like the Tank Man footage was faked. And everyone clearly accepts that the Chinese government massacred its own people to stop an uprising.
Man, I am reminded of how much I hate humanity. Governments like theirs is the default everywhere.
Yeah, not in today’s world where they are sock puppets for the government.
It doesn’t matter because no one else can just infringe on your rights either. Rights are not about just protecting you from government, they’re there to protect you from other people.
Have fun on your authoritarian, heavily censored Reddit clone of an instance, then. The rest of the fediverse will re-embrace rights and move on without you.
Israel has continued bombarding Gaza’s south despite telling 1.1 million people in the north of the besieged enclave to relocate there ahead of an expected ground offensive....
For newer users, the 3 day no poop post was an legendary asklemmy post where OP asked how they could go three days without shitting. We never found out why.
It happens on Lemmy all the time. I’ve been shadowbanned at least three times, all on the bigger instances.
I really, really suspect that the big Lemmy instances are being run by Reddit admins or spooks or some-such. They’re moderating their instances in the exact same way Reddit did minus the profiteering. The censorship is the exact same.
Also, the fact that it’s possible to shadowban people and the software itself doesn’t circumvent that by auto-messaging you or putting a banner on the top of your screen when you are banned from an instance or community is reason #589238923 why Lemmy fucking sucks ass.
Nothing says bootlicking by applying the same bad-faith thinking you accuse others of having without caring about the fact that humanity has had to operate on good faith the entire time it’s existed.
Bootlicking’s easier for people to type and say, and most people do have an understanding of what it means. It’s just not really officially codified yet.
And it’s all good. There is far too much bad faith bullshit going on on this platform that goes unabated for me to not at least try to speak in good faith. I wish the others would learn to do the same. 🤦
Lol it literally just happened again now to another account. Site ban with no explanation. Clearly the way link aggregator sites are structured is just authoritarian and we need to create democratic social media.
Or just accept that bootlicking is synonymous and stop quibbling over semantics.
There is no definition that will be clear enough for bad faith actors and pressing the issue just makes you look sus. Using language requires some effort on your part. It is impossible to just be on us.
And no one listens to white supremacists because we understand life is not black and white like that, and by their reputation alone, white supremacists will never ever get what they want.
It literally doesn’t matter. Those numbers are so damn high it justifies bare minimum dismissal of any claims of innocent on a cop’s part at face value.
A police dog attacked a Black trucker on his knees. An Ohio city is dealing with the aftermath (apnews.com)
Texas Republicans Ban Women From Using Highways for Abortion Appointments (www.newsweek.com)
Lubbock County, Texas, joins a group of other rural Texas counties that have voted to ban women from using their roads to seek abortions....
A bombing in Gaza killed an influencer's family—Instagram responded by suspending his account (www.dailydot.com)
In a video on Oct. 13, Instagram influencer and photojournalist Motaz Azaiza shared footage of the rubble of an apartment, the site of an Israeli bombardment that killed 15 of his family members....
Seeing people realize they cant openly criticize a certain group committing genocide or they may lose their jobs (lemmy.ml)
if youre am*rican its illegal to boycott them.
Kick tankies out of 196 (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
Remember kids, Tankies wants to undermine democracy - same as facists.
Gaza death toll tops 5,000, nearly half of them children: Officials (www.aljazeera.com)
Israel has continued bombarding Gaza’s south despite telling 1.1 million people in the north of the besieged enclave to relocate there ahead of an expected ground offensive....
nooooooo (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
For newer users, the 3 day no poop post was an legendary asklemmy post where OP asked how they could go three days without shitting. We never found out why.
rules for thee, but not for me (lemmy.ca)
To be clear, not talking about this community, obviously 😛....
Detroit synagogue president found fatally stabbed outside her home (www.nbcnews.com)
A Detroit synagogue president was found fatally stabbed outside her home Saturday morning....
Newly released video shows moments before a recently exonerated man was fatally shot by a deputy during a traffic stop | CNN (edition.cnn.com)
“He and his family deserved better,” the Innocence Project of Florida said in a statement. “Lenny’s life mattered.”...