The worst part about masks is how I also got the common cold way less often and didn’t have to smell car exhaust when I walked places. How could I stand wearing this thing?!
Eh… Nah. I don’t think you’re going to see a lot of mask wearing in the US again. If they want to roll out another vaccine I’ll take it, but the masks are a pain in the ass and no one likes them.
I’m starting to realize that the terminally online have just migrated to Lemmy. Who’s being selfish or inconsiderate? You’re forcing me to wear a thing on my face because you or someone else MIGHT get sick from a disease they will most likely survive, if not just shake off with zero consequences in a week like the common cold.
I did my part by getting vaccinated so I don’t add to the number of people who’ll go to the hospital. If things get really hairy I’ll wear a mask, but it’s really just for show. I don’t believe that it’ll do much to protect me from getting sick or potentially spreading the virus.
At least 15 percent of people end up with long covid. And that's the ones who go to the doctor with it. Last Christmas everyone I talked to "didn't have long covid, but..." They could no longer do anything without getting out of breath. Or they kept forgetting things. Or they could only clean the house for 10 minutes when they used to be able to clean all day.
And then there's the diabetes, autoimmune disease, heart disease, dementia... All things you can end up with thanks to covid. And none of this is rare.
From the charts in the article, it looks like levels of infection are up to where they were in May/June 2023. Were you wearing a mask then? It really begs the question: What is the threshold level of infection in which the wearing of masks is critically important?
Wear a Mask. Get vaccinated. Stop spreading misinformation
Since the anti-mask/vax comments seem to be flooding in, figured I’d make my opinion known too… as obnoxiously as I can, because apparently that’s how it’s done
Only the fringe, far right parties are against masking. Liberal and NDP are both pro masking. CPC jump each side of the fence, whenever it benefits them.
I hate scepticism over vaccines, but when it has just been announced that vaccines can be sold to the public for around £100 each, and then this comes along. They say ignore how many are being admitted to hospital as other consequences are more dangerous.
I have followed the hospital rates as a metric for over a year now. I don’t see any other metric as valid. The death rate is reduced as the most vulnerable have been seen off. The reporting rate is non-existent because people are not interested anymore. People are under pressure to attend work with covid now, so why would they bother with the testing kits. Patients in hospital is the most sensible data point to me.
Why are we not being told of which areas are showing the most cases? Covid cases are drastically reduced now. Which hospitals are taking in large amounts of cases?
It would be stupid to take unnecessary risks, but this has a bad smell of fear mongering to sell vaccines around it for me.
Christina Pagel was urging locking, masking, and caution since early 2020, which is well before vaccines were even available. And she’s taking the time to present the evidence, which you can clearly interrogate. Your unsubstantiated conspiracy theory is as dangerous as it is embarrassing.
I don’t argue against taking precautions. I agree that people should not take things for granted and protect themselves. I even added the proviso:
It would be stupid to take unnecessary risks
Vaccines work, I am far from anti vaccine. If the government procured the vaccines and were using them across the population, then I would be all for it. When you add a £100 price tag into the equation then you take more time to consider your options.
There is one thing that is indisputable regarding the drop in cases which can easily be matched against hospital admissions. When everyone was tracking covid infections with tests hospital admissions went up at the same time as positive covid infection went up. We do not have a credible method of tracking infections because of the reasons I have already stated, with the exception of people who are suffering so badly that they need to be admitted in for professional care. We are being asked to ignore what I see as a credible data source at the same time as vaccines have become available at a cost.
If you want the advice she is given to be taken with more ardour from myself, then give me something to see with infection rates, deaths or recorded issues.
but this has a bad smell of fear mongering to sell vaccines around it for me.
This is rude and dangerous af. This is what I’m concerned with. Dr. Pagel has no connection with the pharmaceutical industry, so this is also just entirely misinformed. It must be nice to just shoot from the hip and not have to back up your assertions.
I’m left to wonder what is more likely, a company taking advantage of a public health emergency to turn a profit, or a company manufacturing an entire public health scare to sell their product.
If the government was trying to funnel money to vaccine companies they’d just make the vaccines free and pay for them with government funds, forever. That makes a lot more money than having the companies try to get people to fork out 100 pounds for them.
Keep in mind that a) that was the conversion from the US pricing. Chances are it will be a different price if and when they hit the market in the UK. Additionally keep in mind that the reporting was that hypothetically they may become commercially available in the UK next year. I highly doubt anyone is trying to create fear in the UK today to drive purchases of a product that might become available in the UK in 2024.
And this time the government isn’t going to hand out vaccines with no strings attached. Now you have to agree to some website’s grossly one-sided terms of service in order to get vaccinated. No, I do not agree to binding arbitration over something being put in my body; I’m not completely stupid.
Wear a mask appropriately, wash your hands, and be safe! And mRNA based vaccines are heavily researched already (and freaking cool to me), but sorry you have go through a website TOS to get a vaccine… that does sound kinda dumb for accessibility. I can just walk into a pharmacy and ask for one the same day. Though I’m pretty sure I’m still signing a TOS on paper regardless, cause that’s just kinda how risk/benefit works. Wish you all the best though and good luck!
Forcing everyone to hide their face in public is an astronomical cost. Even if forced masking worked, which it does not, it would not be worth the cost.
reddit-logo posting style made “I love/I love it that/I like it that/it’s funny that” into a tiresome passive-aggressive and sarcastic prelude to rage posting, and I hate that.
millions of people died. is it chronic anxiety or do some of us just allow ourselves to grieve and adapt to the reality of the new world while heartless monsters such as yourself revel in the mass death
I lost 4 people close to me to covid. I’ve had friends lose cognitive function and have to leave their jobs of years. I’m glad you’re lucky enough to not have that happen to you. But the fact you can be so disgustingly callous and refer to yourself as any kind of person who cares about people is the biggest lie you’ve ever told yourself. I hope you reflect on this and what your rhetoric means to people who have experienced loss.
But training doesn’t make you smart or perceptive or even capable of independent thought. It just makes you trained. We also train fish, mice and worms.
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