itchy_lizard,

Will they ban planes next?

philluminati,

Government just lost a court case, forcing a reduction of flights into and out of their main airport.

ft.com/…/16597642-2ec2-4c3f-9264-7f51b8b96701

itchy_lizard,

Article is paywalled

Tomato666,
itchy_lizard,

Now do cars

Rednax,

Parking in the city center of Amsterdam will cost you more than 60 euro for a full day. But if you park at the edge of the city, close to the highway exit and next to a metro station, it will cost you 1 euro.

While it is no outright ban, it is one of the various ways the city is pushing cars away from the center.

philluminati,

The Netherlands is the most bike friendly country in the world.

tallwookie,
@tallwookie@lemmy.world avatar

what percentage of the port cities economy that the cruise ships stop at is driven by the cruise ship passengers? might be a net bad thing

regular_human,
@regular_human@lemmy.world avatar

Amsterdam? Have you ever read a book?

tallwookie,
@tallwookie@lemmy.world avatar

do porno mags count?

regular_human,
@regular_human@lemmy.world avatar

clearly not

philluminati,

So allegedly cruise tourists eat all meals on board the boat since it’s free as well as sleep there, so they spend very little compared to other tourists.

darvocet,

Lucky I just hit Amsterdam up on a Iceland/Norway cruise in June. It’s a beautiful city and port and will be missed. There are not too many cruise ports that are in the heart of the city.

Spacebar,
@Spacebar@lemmy.world avatar

Vacationing on a cruise ship is like being trapped in a floating mall. When they do let you out of the mall, the shore excursions are often trips to a smaller mall.

darvocet,

If you don’t like them, don’t go. Also some are better than others at not feeling like a mall. Some folks enjoy casinos and bars and the ship takes you to new destinations. The ship itself is the core destination and if you don’t go into it thinking than then you won’t enjoy yourself.

usrtrv,

Ignoring very subjective tastes, they’re pretty shit for the environment regardless.

darvocet,

Oh yea no argument there. Some of the new ships with LNG are pretty interesting. Another big problem is flying a flag of convenience and bad labor practices.

Spacebar,
@Spacebar@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve been on two cruises and I’ve stated my opinion.

I didn’t state at all that one should not like a cruise or a mall for that matter. To each is own.

HobbitFoot,

Amsterdam is really trying to transition away from being a tourism destination.

Showroom7561,

They don’t care, because they already have one of the most livable cities on the planet. Locals over tourists.

mjhagen,

Would be great if we succeed, tourism is only a relatively small part of the economy here.

the_kalash,
mikegioia,
@mikegioia@lemmy.ml avatar

Fantastic news. Every major destination should commit to banning these monstrosities until they all disappear.

itchy_lizard,

Hoenslty it’s a better way to cross the ocean than planes, climate wise

hairyfeet,

www.theguardian.com/travel/2006/…/cruises.green

Not at all. This article is 17 years old and planes have only gotten more efficient whilst the same old cruise ships continue to so the seas.

Plus a more recent article

treehugger.com/what-is-greener-boat-vs-plane-emis…

itchy_lizard,

This is green washing. Making planes burn less fuel is nice, but it doesn’t change the physics of burning them St high altitude.

The only way to fix that is to burn lower to the ground. Ships will always be more environmental friendly way to cross oceans.

igorkraw,

Source please? This is not how my understanding of physics works

itchy_lizard,

Literally read the link above. They mention the issues of nitrogen oxides exponentionally fucking up the atmosphere when burned at high altitude, but they they totally leave that out when calculating only co2 in the conclusion

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