Jimmycrackcrack,

Site is down and it’s the one time I don’t see the summary bot in the comments 😞

Schlemmy,
Flinch,
@Flinch@hexbear.net avatar
Lemmylaugh,

I doubt it’s that simple. Imagine we had a United States of Africa now that backed Russia. Would the world be more or less stable? I have no idea except that Libya would be more stable.

Blake,

Very clearly the answer is that the world would be more stable, I don’t see how that’s really disputable? It would be worse for NATO, certainly, but a truly United Africa would be absolutely astounding. I don’t think you realise just how much that would change the world

Uranium3006,
@Uranium3006@kbin.social avatar

That would be a lot of people and natural resources under one roof. There's already talks to unite east Africa

Suoko,
@Suoko@feddit.it avatar

If you compare it with recent flood in the Italian region Emilia Romagna, maybe there is little you can do with too heavy rain, you can’t just blame governments.

Fuckfuckmyfuckingass,
@Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world avatar

The Italian food had a death toll of 17 and this one is over 11,000. So, ya know, there’s a bit of a difference.

Suoko,
@Suoko@feddit.it avatar

Different houses, different living standards. You could end up saying their poorer conditions lead to this catastrophe, but dams woukd have probably failed anyway, in one way or another one. If any nation could become easily rich thanks to a government change, it would have happens yesterday. Those nations are destroyed in a century and partially rebuilt the following century. You know who usually decides

appel,
@appel@whiskers.bim.boats avatar

Different living standards could have caused 3 factors of 10 increase in deaths? That sounds a bit extreme. If they had a functioning government (read: it hadn’t been destroyed by the west), surely that government could have kept up with the upkeep of the dams and fortified them, knowing that extreme weather events are coming?

Suoko,
@Suoko@feddit.it avatar

The west is unable to deal with such extreme events, and you’re saying they could actually have been better than us? I’ve no idea how lybia actually is, but I can judge those events. It happened to me this summer, nothing so dangerous or extreme but I’ve never seen anything like that before. And I’ve seen a lot of sunsets in my life.

appel,
@appel@whiskers.bim.boats avatar

Libya was doing very well before it was invaded. The leader was repressive, but they had tremendous oil wealth. They clearly cared about giving this wealth back to their people, evidenced by the free education, healthcare, and lump sums of money to married couples etc. I find it more likely that the government of Libya would have been willing to invest in the protection of it’s people by repairing the dam regularly, versus any western country that only wants to extract maximum profit from it’s inhabitants by charging for all services and privatisation of previously national services, all while the leaders pocket hundreds of millions (the UK, for example).

Suoko,
@Suoko@feddit.it avatar

It looks like you’re 100% right, according to a fact check.

g.co/bard/share/aed6d2881380

In my opinion lemmy should offer an automatic fact check about what people write in their posts

tallwookie,

there are actually two governments in libya

Blake,

West: steals all resources, then burns a bunch of shit, and then causes a massive flood

Libya: thousands of people die

West: lol why are your houses so shit lmao build better gg skill issue

FartsWithAnAccent,
@FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t: Who decides?

Burn_The_Right,

The Italian food had a death toll of 17

I hear you, but you’re forgetting that Italy invented Death By Chocolate.

Fuckfuckmyfuckingass,
@Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world avatar

Lol. I’d take the L, but it seems I lost it.

UnicodeHamSic,

We did destroy their government for being too good before so there is some issue

Suoko,
@Suoko@feddit.it avatar

A continuous issue which is perfect for us to keep them poor and steal their resources. We’re great at that

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