pfc,

I assume it is not a full transition to cloud, instead they are adding ‘Cloud Computing to Windows’ and integrating with system.

DestroyMegacorps,

Wow great More always online drm in windows

Questy,
@Questy@lemmy.world avatar

Recently I moved to a Fedora distro called Nobara for my gaming rig. Microsoft has been working hard to force me out for years. When I have to make custom installers, and run scripts to control updates and telemetry, you're not being a very inviting OS.

DestroyMegacorps,

I would switch os if roblox didn’t decide to screw linux users with the byfron anti cheat

ghashul,

I've just been testing it out, but tried installing a couple of games through lutris and had no luck with it. Tinkering isn't an issue, but the system hung so bad when starting Arcanum I had to reboot to get back in. Even after killing wine, the game and gnome-shell I still couldn't interact with the gui at all.

artaxthehappyhorse,
@artaxthehappyhorse@lemmy.ml avatar

Microsoft wants to move me fully to the Linux

eleitl,

Redmond locking out consumers with shitty/metered Internet connections? What a wonderful idea.

Asking people to move to a subscription model will also be appreciated, I’m sure.

mkeee2015,
@mkeee2015@lemm.ee avatar

Is the "cloud" sustainable and scalable, in terms of energy and environmental demands?

eleitl,

No, no – they want to get you to pay for your hardware, mandatory, big network transfers, and cloud resources. None of which are exactly powered by unicorn farts.

mcneb10,

@dvdnet90 I’m leaving windows as soon as support is dropped for windows 10

Boozilla,

I already have to jump through a bunch of hoops to make Win 10/11 tolerable for personal use and preferences Things like ShutUp10 and dozens of manual tweaks, registry settings, policy changes, etc. The cloud version will probably constantly roll all of that back on me.

I really hate this silicon valley mindset that everyone has reliable broadband and worse, they know what the user wants/needs better than the user does.

Enshitificstion is ruthless.

Skooshjones,
@Skooshjones@vlemmy.net avatar

Linux welcomes you :)

Boozilla,

I like Linux a lot, I just have never mastered it. I plan on learning it better when I retire.

hyorvenn,
@hyorvenn@lemmy.world avatar

An OS as a service that you would connect to from.... what ? Do they intend to sell computers that can do nothing else than running an RDP session ?

ShoePaste,
@ShoePaste@lemmy.ml avatar

man, this might be thing that finally makes me switch to Linux. what an incredibly stupid, shitty, and greedy decision.

Thulcander,
@Thulcander@lemmy.ml avatar

Windows 10 not allowing you to postpone updates when it launched pissed me off enough to switch to linux for around 4 years. I came back for games, but the GPU market (and age) has pushed me back to consoles or just not gaming.

erwan,

Check again Linux gaming, Proton/Wine is surprisingly viable now and the vast majority of games run without any issue.

hermitian,
@hermitian@lemmy.world avatar

And if you want to know, if a game works, check protondb.com . It's for proton, so steam, and includes a steam deck section. And many games, that don't have a native linux version, come with great tips on how to make them run, if a game does not run with proton out of the box. Most just need a different proton version, which is three clicks to change in steam.

Thulcander,
@Thulcander@lemmy.ml avatar

I’ve heard Linux gaming is pretty good now with a native steam client and a ton of games that run natively thanks to steamOS

TheYang,
@TheYang@lemmy.ml avatar

the ton of games doesn’t run natively, they run well, but through a translation layer (wine/proton)

erwan,

To be exact it’s not a translation layer, but a reimplementation of the Windows APIs and ABIs on Linux.

That’s why there is no performance cost.

i_am_not_a_robot,

I tried this last year. VR support, even using Valve hardware with Valve’s official VR support for Linux, was not there. In SteamVR menus it was stuttering and mispredicting (everything looks shaky), and in the actual applications it was unstable. It seems like the VR devices work perfectly, but the software for rendering and presenting frames is proof of concept quality. That’s basically the primary purpose of this last Windows machine so I’m kind of stuck.

There’s an open source OpenXR implementation, but I heard it doesn’t support hotplugging, as in if any of your devices disconnect for any reason you need to restart everything.

Boozilla,

I still game a little on PC, but tabletop gaming in-person with my friends is so much better. I highly recommend it if you’re burned out on the whole computer games things. Board games, card games, and pen-and-paper RPGs are a lot better now than they were years ago. There’s something for almost every taste.

H3L1X,
@H3L1X@lemmy.ml avatar

Do it! Linux is great, and not nearly as hard as its reputation suggests.

Zehzin,
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

And if you try to use a browser other than Edge it'll shoot your dog

nyan,

Well, that should be interesting for businesses. I wonder how things will play out with HIPPA, GPDR, and such.

ulu_mulu,
@ulu_mulu@lemmy.world avatar

While I could understand this approach for big enterprises, to avoid the hassle of managing thousands of employees PCs, I don't understand it for home use.

I mean, people who want a PC at home, want it for the multi-purpose capabilities and power in gaming, not to mention full control over it.

Those who only use the PC for email, browsing the internet and watching videos, are better served with a tablet, they're so powerful nowadays that you don't really need a PC for those simple tasks, students would be better off with chromebooks, they're even cheaper, a few types of jobs, like professional graphics for example, are better done with a MAC, and probably other things I'm forgetting right now.

I fully switched to Linux years ago, but if I were still using Windows, I know for sure I'd be furious if my computer stopped working only because the internet went down or MS servers had some downtime.

I'd love to know what they know that I don't to be so sure this won't blow up in their faces.

Nindelofocho,

bet itll suddenly become subscription based too

fireshaper,
@fireshaper@lemmy.ml avatar

Of course, how else will they pay for storage of your data? This part already started with OneDrive. Now you’ll buy a new laptop for $100, the thinnest laptop you’ve ever seen, it will just come with a 128GB m.1 drive soldered to the board, and you’ll run (and save) everything from Microsoft’s servers.

Nindelofocho,

That’s exactly the argument they and their bootlickers will use too. “we need it to run infrastructure!!!” they wouldnt have to run infrastructure if they didnt gut features from their products. Like the whole Toyota remote start subscription crap. “They need the subscription to run the servers so you can start your car from anywhere” but you can no longer use classic radio remote start which doesn’t require servers

Nindelofocho,

That’s exactly the argument they and their bootlickers will use too. “we need it to run infrastructure!!!” they wouldnt have to run infrastructure if they didnt gut features from their products. Like the whole Toyota remote start subscription crap. “They need the subscription to run the servers so you can start your car from anywhere” but you can no longer use classic radio remote start which doesn’t require servers

Flying_Lynx,
@Flying_Lynx@lemmy.ml avatar

I know I’m one of the few, but what I like about a PC is the Computing part, but also the Personal part. I can use this apparatus to automate some calculations in my own free time and display it however I want. Sure things can be outsourced. Sure I can use a cloud computer. But that’s no fun for me.

I had notebooks where I turned off WiFi and all its services, I had a desktop PC where the network card fried. Those were the most stable and fastest Windows installations I ever had. Running for years on end without ever needing a reboot.

Windows Terminal-mode, it sure may have its place. But not for me.

ghariksforge,

What if my wifi goes down?

LifeInMultipleChoice,

I have 300mb down with a major carrier. (Spectrum)

The service turns to un-useable shit all to often. All online games are out. Streaming services work most of the time, but barley. 5mb down would be great in those times when it slows to a crawl.

Rebooting modems/routers doesn’t help, and there are times where it does get to 300mb down so I know the hardware can support it.

Online based Windows would be terrible for me. I’d move to another OS quick

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