ellane,
@ellane@pkm.social avatar

Finally seriously looking at Sync.

Where should I store my vault on my ? I feel so lost! For years × ∞ I've put everything in Dropbox or iCloud, but that, I hear, is a recipe for sync troubles.

  • looks at computer as if for the first time, confused expression on previously confident face *

Why is my Documents folder greyed out? Where am I? Who am I ?? Help me, obi-@obsidianmd, you're my only hope!

kurau,
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@ellane @obsidianmd I just had some trouble with iCloud today. One of my pdf files inside my vault disappeared from the Obsidian view. I thought it had been deleted. Only to find that iCloud removed the file from the vault probably because it wasn't accessed lately and was bigger than some threshold (I am just guessing here). After I clicked an icon with a cloud with a down arrow inside that the file materialized again.
I do not use Obsidian Sync though, only iCloud sync.

ellane,
@ellane@pkm.social avatar

@kurau @obsidianmd That’s another issue with both iCloud and Dropbox. Both give you the option to specify offline access on a per-file basis, but I’ve found it doesn’t always work as expected.

kurau,
@kurau@ohay.ooo avatar

@ellane @obsidianmd Oh this confirms then. Hmm I need to research more. Not working always as expected doesn't give us confidence, right?

The suggestion that someone gave in your thread about syncthing... I read that mentioned somewhere else before too if I remember correctly. I think I will try this solution sometime, since it seemed well recommended.

DrPen,
@DrPen@mastodon.social avatar

@kurau @ellane @obsidianmd I use Syncthing successfully, syncing mac, pc and android phone. I run 2 vaults, sync everything to the pc and sync main vualt with mac and a separate small vault with the phone. You do get some workspace json or similar conflicts (this happens in any sync situation imo, I used to get it with Evernote notes quite often) but if you resolve those by selecting the one you want via date or time or device etc, it works very well.

lwbrown52,

iCloud has been pretty stable for me, and I haven’t read many dissenting views; Dropbox seems to work well for some, but I’ve read of a bit more frustration with it.

astrophoenix,
@astrophoenix@pkm.social avatar

@ellane @obsidianmd I loosely follow PARA so my vaults are in ~/Archives/Obsidian/ where I have my personal vault and any sample vaults I’ve downloaded. And on my work laptop my work vault is there too (no syncing for that one).

biscotty,

Try syncthing. It’s free and faster than repo/cloud based options since it is direct device-to-device synchronization.

w8emv,
@w8emv@pkm.social avatar

@ellane

I use the Obsidian Git plugin at https://github.com/denolehov/obsidian-git to keep my vault backed up.

This works with a private Git repository (like the private ones I use on Github).

I would only recommend this if you are already familiar with git - there are a couple of things that are less obvious about how it works. But for me and my workflows it's good.

@obsidianmd

pam,
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@ellane @obsidianmd I use iCloud and Sync, so for that reason I don’t put my Obsidian vaults in my Documents folder, because iCloud backs those files up. I place my vault in the same folder that Documents, Desktop, and Downloads are in — my user folder (named Pam).

EpiphanicSynchronicity,
@EpiphanicSynchronicity@pkm.social avatar

@ellane @obsidianmd @obsidianmd i use #Obsidian Sync, and on my MacBook, my vault is just another folder in my Documents.

god,
@god@sh.itjust.works avatar

Do check if all files are synced. Years ago I tried sync and I lost all my pdfs. Only mds and images were shared.

mlevison,
@mlevison@agilealliance.social avatar

@ellane @obsidianmd anywhere but Dropbox or other sync platforms

ellane,
@ellane@pkm.social avatar

@mlevison That's what I thought, but whoa, it's like I've not used anything BUT sync platforms for so long, I've forgotten what life is like without them.

And what about the cloud symbols next to additional vaults I want to remove from iCloud? Do I have to wait until that goes away before I can move them? This is a humbling experience.

mlevison,
@mlevison@agilealliance.social avatar

@ellane I only bothered to move one vault. The others were all just sample vaults.

I renamed the iCloud vault with a delete me ending. I shutdown my obsidian on all devices. I copied the vault on MacOS. I restarted obsidian MacOS and enabled sync. …

All steps were reversible. Also I had backups in GIt, Time Machine and Backblaze.

ellane,
@ellane@pkm.social avatar

@mlevison Thanks, that's a helpful workflow to follow. My only sadness is Writer's insistence on using iCloud…this app is the only thing keeping me there.

mlevison,
@mlevison@agilealliance.social avatar

@ellane wow. I have photos, drafts, NetNewsWire, family backups so iPhones and iPads

ellane,
@ellane@pkm.social avatar

@mlevison Oh sorry, I mean keeping my Obsidian vault there! I’m happy with iCloud for other things.

mlevison,
@mlevison@agilealliance.social avatar

@ellane oh. I think that rules IAWriter out since you can’t have your vault in both iCloud and Obsidian sync.

EpiphanicSynchronicity,
@EpiphanicSynchronicity@pkm.social avatar

@mlevison @ellane @obsidianmd I can easily access my vault with iA Writer both on my MacBook and my iPhone.

One of the advantages of #Obsidian Sync on is that iOS “sees” your vault as a local file. It appears in the Files app as a local folder, and you can pin it in libraries of iA Writer, 1Writer, etc.

You don’t have to resort to iOS’s clumsy, buggy open in place “feature” as you do with files saved in clouds other than iCloud.

mlevison,
@mlevison@agilealliance.social avatar

@EpiphanicSynchronicity @ellane @obsidianmd I hadn’t even noticed that. Oh that’s nice

kill_dash_nine,

Just curious - why do you say that?

mlevison,
@mlevison@agilealliance.social avatar

@kill_dash_nine you can’t safely embed one sync service inside another. You will eventually get conflicting changes.

kill_dash_nine,

Ah, you mean using Obsidian Sync and putting the synced folder in another sync service. That makes sense. I was only thinking of why syncing a non-Obsidian Synced folder in another shared folder tool.

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