US expands probe into Ford engine failures to include two motors and nearly 709,000 vehicles

U.S. auto safety investigators have expanded a probe into Ford Motor Co. engine failures to include nearly 709,000 vehicles.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration also said in documents posted Monday on its website that it upgraded the investigation to an engineering analysis, a step closer to a recall.

The investigation now covers Ford’s F-150 pickup truck, as well as Explorer, Bronco and Edge SUVs and Lincoln Nautilus and Aviator SUVs. All are from the 2021 and 2022 model years and are equipped with 2.7-liter or 3.0-liter V6 turbocharged engines.

Bye,

Sometimes I see new broncos and I’m jealous, but now I have this knowledge so I don’t need to be.

Also tiny 2.7L turbo v6? Pathetic

I thought my Toyota’s 4L v6 was small, now I feel better. Some day I’ll save up and buy the TRD supercharger kit :)

Firedcylinder,

Cool. Now do the 1.0, 1.5, 2.0 and 2.3 ecoboosts.

IDontHavePantsOn,

Don’t forget their wet/dry automatic transmissions, or their fuse boxes on the fiesta/focus.

brognak,

I have a 2015 Focus ST with the 2.0 Ecoboost, honestly, most reliable car I have ever owned. Bought it new with like 300ish miles on it, it’s at 105k now never missed a beat, and it definitely has taken some beating 😅. Maybe I’m lucky?

Firedcylinder,

I have heard great things about the reliability of the Focus ST/RS, but not when those engines are in other cars.

brognak,

Well the RS had the whole head gasket issue. Wonder if they put the Monday/Tuesday engines in their sporty cars and the later in the week ones in everything else 😅

TheBaldFox,
@TheBaldFox@lemmy.ml avatar

Good, now do the 3.5 and 3.7 with the internal water pump.

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Ford is not having a good couple of weeks.

krayj,

For those wondering what the actual issue is (because I was):

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) says that: “under normal driving conditions, the engines can lose power due to catastrophic engine failure related to allegedly faulty valves”

Neato,
@Neato@kbin.social avatar

Damn things are having heart attacks.

DragonTypeWyvern,

'Murica

wipes tear with burger napkin

BadEngineering,

About time Ford is held accountable for their dogshit engines, although investigations should have started in the early 2000s. The Ford triton v8s of the late 90s and 00s were prone to blowing sparkplugs out of their cylinder heads (taking all the threads with them) so often that parts stores advertised the repair kits prominently. Ford never recalled a single engine for the problem and faced no repercussions.

Montagge,
@Montagge@kbin.social avatar

Did they ever get held accountable for their god awful 2000s transmission that liked to eat themselves?

Pirky,
@Pirky@lemmy.world avatar

What one? The 6F35? Or the DPS6?

Montagge,
@Montagge@kbin.social avatar

The 5R55 comes to mind first

Pirky,
@Pirky@lemmy.world avatar

What problem did they have? I had a Ford with a 5R55E in it. I don’t recall reading about any issues with them.
The 6F35 had an issue with one of the pressure plates breaking, resulting in some very hard shifts between 3rd and 4th gear. I also experienced it when shifting from park to drive or reverse.
The DPS6 actually had a lawsuit against Ford they were so bad. For some stupid reason they kept the clutch dry and that could cause catastrophic failure in some dangerous situations.

Montagge,
@Montagge@kbin.social avatar

I done goofed and left a letter off. It was the 5R55W specifically in that family.

https://www.transmissiondigest.com/a-fix-for-5r55w-front-planet-bearing-failure/

just_change_it,

They are not including any electric motors. They have included two more Internal Combustion Engines.

Important to make these distinctions in the age of ICE, Hybrid and EVs being common. People don’t really know the difference usually but motors are usually a lot less prone to failure than engines. Explosions aren’t healthy!

Shikadi,

Engines are a type of motor

just_change_it,

I don’t think everyone agrees with that statement. www.kia.com/dm/…/is-an-engine-a-motor.html

If you work with this stuff often the vernacular is a bit clearer than the typical person off the street.

Shikadi,

In the United States, it’s called the department of motor vehicles. It would be pretty weird if almost all motor vehicles lacked motors.

KIA may not agree with that, but they’re also wrong. www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/motor

www.dictionary.com/browse/motor

dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/…/motor

www.britannica.com/dictionary/motor

Hopefully I don’t need to keep linking dictionaries.

just_change_it,

Okay start calling gas engines “Internal Combustion Motors” around some car types. See how long until someone calls you out as an idiot and you can bring up your dictionary and show them how you’re right and they’re wrong.

Shikadi,

Or, I’ll just keep calling them engines/motors like everyone else does. Also, I am a car type.

Buelldozer,
@Buelldozer@lemmy.today avatar

I’m in my 50s and the Engine vs Motor debate has been raging for longer than I’ve been around.

Now if you’ll excuse me I need to put some motor oil in my motorcycle so I can ride it over to the Department of Motor Vehicles and get it registered. I’m taking it to compete in some motorsports this weekend and it needs to be street legal.

just_change_it, (edited )

Find me a DC Electric Engine sold as a part from GM, Ford, Toyota, BMW, Honda, Tesla, Chevrolet, Volkswagen, Hyundai, Mercedes-Benz, Nissan, Porsche, Buick, Renault, Mazda, Bentley, Kia, Chrysler, Jeep, Audi or Subaru. I bet every car with one from the last 30 years is going to call it a DC Electric motor.

We’re not talking about the usage of Motor and how it’s been used with other words to describe all manner of things from locomotives to motels. We’re talking about the Engines and Motors that power vehicles themselves.

Anything less is just motorboating for the sake of enjoyment, and who doesn’t like a good motorboat? It’s just off topic is all.

Next you’re going to tell me that Cars aren’t just a shortened version of Horseless Carriage.

Oh and btw, when you look for “motoroil” the listings are all Engine Oil… guess the terminology has changed since our great grandparents. www.autozone.com/…/engine-oil

Shikadi,

All gas/diesel engines are motors, both by dictionary definition and colloquially. Nobody calls an electric motor a DC engine, but that has nothing to do with gas engines regularly being called motors.

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