moobythegoldensock,

I wasn’t excited for this movie until now. I hope the body swapping shenanigans are for the whole movie and not just like 10 minutes, because crazy teleporting action scenes is where it’s at.

realcaseyrollins,

I've heard it's been through two rounds of test screenings that both went really well, which is why I have some hope. The versions played in the test screenings aren't the final version though...

Encromion,

I feel the opposite, heh. I feel like it’s a fun gimmick that’ll make things too disjointed and hard to follow. But i bet it’ll last until the end of the second act, or middle of the third, and they’ll get their powers back just in time to fuck up the big bad.

kratoz29,

I just watched the Jujutsu Kaisen fight (anime) where two characters swap their bodies while clapping, I’m in for more tag teams like this!

famousblueben,
@famousblueben@lemmy.film avatar

I really tried on the Ms. Marvel series but it was not for me and I knew it by the second episode, and Captain Marvel was one of the most formulaic, underbaked films of that Phase. Maybe it is just because Guardians being done means whatever strong investments I once had in the MCU are fading away because it’s all just too much of the same, but really nothing that screams out to me that this will be enjoyable though I will ultimately see it (a couple friends and I see every MCU movie despite most of us being super burnt out)

Spliffman1,
@Spliffman1@lemmy.world avatar

Same

PenguinJuice,

I don't care for the heroes they are making shows and movies about. There's none of that gritty, high stakes feel or compelling character development.

Enigma,

Formulating the shows to 6 episodes really ruined it.

PenguinJuice,

Yeah, feels lame.

Whirlybird,

And the shows only exist to introduce a new character for the next movies, meaning if you only watch the movies it’s just a bunch of characters appearing and everyone acting like they’ve been around forever and you’re supposed to know who they are.

SPOOSER,

I really loved all of the MCU content and was extremely satisfied when Thanos was defeated in Endgame. Since then, I have enjoyed watching the movies that tie up the loose ends from Endgame; I.E. Loki, GOTG 2, and the Spidermans. Everything other than that has made me feel like Marvel is struggling for air.

wjrii,
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I thought Ms. Marvel was one of the better things that they've done post-Endgame. I liked the Spider-man "neighborhood superhero" vibes in the first half, I liked the themes of a child of diaspora reconnecting with their heritage but still needing to recontextualize it, and Iman Vellani is a god-damn treasure when, as here, she's properly cast. The "hard-light" powers and visuals were a decent enough riff on the "embiggening" power from the comics without asking the audience to accept Stretch Armstrong as a major superhero (Good luck, Mr. Fantastic).

Still had underbaked villains, needless save-the-universe brinksmanship, and some of the flair from the first couple of episodes eroded into Marvel formulas, but overall I enjoyed it.

Xero,
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Same here here. I loved the Ms Marvel series and didn’t hate the Captain Marvel film.

InfiniWheel,

The Cap Marvel film felt like a phase 1 film, like if Thor didn’t have Loki. Yeah, they laid the groundwork and all, but other than Iron Man 1 and maybe Cap America they were pretty eh.

hydrashok,

Looks looks a fun popcorn movie. Still haven’t watched the Ms Marvel series, though. Wonder if the backstory will be that important.

The worst part about that trailer, in my opinion, was the massacre of the Beastie Boys for that crappy remix. (Side note: didn’t MCA forbid use of Beastie Boys music in ads in his will when he passed?)

Sky_Lobster,

The Ms Marvel show was a fun watch, but like all things Marvel its all played very safe. If you have time to kill, you could do worse.

1bluepixel,
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The first few episodes were fun and character-driven. Then the show remembered it was an MCU show, so they introduced a half-baked villain so they can have a bad CGI final battle.

1bluepixel,
@1bluepixel@lemmy.ml avatar

Looks looks a fun popcorn movie.

Ah, yes. The code word for “it’s gonna suck balls”.

As opposed to actual fun popcorn movies like Guardians or Ragnarok that never get called that.

flossdaily,

The entanglement aspect looks like a clever plot device, but I don’t know how they are going to get the audience to care about Captain Marvel. The first movie really undercut our ability to care about this character. She was just a Mary Sue for the entire movie. We never see her struggle or grow. She’s always just perfect at everything. It keeps her character unrelatable.

realcaseyrollins,

She seems more likeable here, but I doubt she'll be the main character.

paddirn,

Anything related to Capt. Marvel I’m having a hard time caring about. Secret Invasion has been a giant flop for me and I particularly think how the Skrulls were brought into the MCU via Capt. Marvel was just kind of dumb and it’s creating this weird jarring effect where we’re supposed to be sympathetic towards them, but they’re the bad guys and it’s just creating this mismatch where I feel nothing towards any of it. I get having sympathetic bad guys, but the way it was handled all felt very clumsy and rushed. Just terrible writing on top of everything.

If anything, the Skrull threat should’ve been unresolved in Capt. Marvel (not make them suddenly our friends), like that movie should have been the set-up for Secret Invasion and they should have been seeding stuff here and there for it throughout Phase 4, letting things come to a head in Secret Invasion. Obviously that still would’ve been weird, given that it took place in-between Infinity War and Endgame, but that was always going to be the case unless they had tied the movie in more with the Infinity saga (apart from her just getting her powers from an infinity stone or whatever happened).

I had avoided Ms. Marvel because I just don’t care about the character, though I’ll probably binge it in the next week before I cancel my D+ subscription after Secret Invasion ends, just to say I’ve watched it. Hopefully going in with low expectations will somehow make it better.

InvaderDJ,

I’ve honestly been enjoying Secret Invasion so far. The plot has some issues, but not enough to pull me out of the enjoyment. I’d call it probably my third or fourth favorite Marvel D+ show so far.

paddirn,

In episode 5, right after an assassination attempt on the President of the United States was foiled, Nick Fury, a disheveled-looking black guy who was just fired by the US govt, pulls a gun on one of the President’s senior aides in the very same hospital where the President is recuperating (probably right outside his room), assaults the aide, then starts walking away. A platoon of Secret Service agents appear out of nowhere (from the same hallway they had just been in), all pointing guns at Fury and… they just let him walk away. Obviously, this is a comic book tv show with shapeshifting aliens and super powers and all that, but I can only suspend my disbelief so much. And why wouldn’t Fury have just shot and/or killed fauxRhodey at that point to reveal him/her as a Skrull? The only leverage they had on him was that video, which they were releasing anyways, wouldn’t revealing a shapeshifting alien help his case that it wasn’t him and that aliens are trying to start WW3? They have Olivia Colman do this EXACT thing when she literally shoots the Director of MI6, this series is just so scatter-brained.

And the goddamned scene in the graveyard. Like Fury purposely hides his stash in different compartments throughout all of these fake graves? “I need to have my eye patch over here, my gun over here, and a cool leather jacket in this one. Can’t put all my eggs in one basket, then I’d be totally screwed out of my dramatic ‘suiting up’ scene.” And what was the point of the eye patch or not having the eye patch the whole series? Literally everybody knows who he is, he’s not hiding from anybody, but oh, he’s got his eye patch on now, so Fury is back! Capt. Marvel even ruined the reason for Fury’s eye patch.

There’s just so much lazy writing in the whole series that’s on par with some of the worst from Game of Thrones, things just happen purely for the convenience of the plot to get characters from point A to point B or to “tell” the audience something, it’s just so transparent and infuriating.

InvaderDJ,

I had to skip this message since I realized I hadn’t watched this episode yet.

Your big points are true. Fury probably didn’t kill Rhodey then because he knew the Secret Service would immediately shoot him making the reveal pointless but it doesn’t help the fact that it is contrived. Especially since Rhodey was acting sus as hell the whole time anyway. And I guess you could also argue Fury was given the latitude he was because he’s THE spymaster who brought together the team that saved the world on multiple occasions and the universe once but the idea that the US government would let him stay outside the president’s room with a gun is hard to swallow.

And the suit up sequence had me thinking the exact same thing. I was expecting those different compartments to maybe have the different Avengers’ DNA, but nope just clothes and a gun. That did get a snort from me.

And there’s more. Like how Varra and Giah managed to fight off a Skrull hit squad despite being caught off guard and not being combatants in the first place, like how the assault team weren’t Super Skrulls and even like Sonya being caught off guard by Rhodey being a Skrull didn’t make any sense.

But the episode was still good to me. Maybe I’m just more willing to suspend disbelief. The whole premise of a Skrull invasion requires it, as does Fury not calling in even the regular Avengers like Captain America.

What I want from Marvel more than anything is a series similar in tone to this one, but one that goes more in-depth on the world. Make these things make sense, explain how the non-super powered world operates in a universe where aliens, monsters and gods exist and it wouldn’t be so jarring.

But then again, this is the series that has contradicted its own rules of time travel multiple times and even set up character growth arcs in one movie like Thor Ragnarok just to undo them in Infinity War and then Thor Love and Thunder.

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