notExactlyI20,
@notExactlyI20@lemmy.world avatar
nekothegamer,
@nekothegamer@sh.itjust.works avatar

i don’t i use armcord most of the time

sircalico,

ahem ahem discord

Lime66,

It is technically available as a tar.gz, but I’m not sure who they think is going to install that

AceFuzzLord,

I don’t know what the Linux community’s consensus on appimages are, but I wouldn’t mind if people made more appimages because, for the few distros I’ve used, appimages just usually work.

airbussy,
@airbussy@lemmy.one avatar

AppImages are definitely convient to use. However the two issues I have with them are that there’s no easy way to find them (eg flathub) and they’re not automatically integrated with the DE. Requiring a tool that manages AppImages to make it easier.

isVeryLoud,

Appimages are supposed to be distributed the same way Windows and Mac software is distributed, that’s kind of the point.

As for management, I agree distros should ship with an appimage manager.

UnfortunateShort,

We don’t have this kind of weakness on Arch. Apes together strong. Porting magic language to our world.

ILikeBoobies,

We still need to fix their deb only release

AVincentInSpace,

just run it through alien and hope

nekothegamer,
@nekothegamer@sh.itjust.works avatar

already did once, it led me to an uninstallable package

AVincentInSpace,

hence why I said hope

dgriffith,

Open it up in midnight commander, and it will unpack it into a virtual directory structure, complete with install/uninstall scripts.

Look at the install script to see what it’s thinking, pull out the file structure, copy into your filesystem.

Oh, and hope. Because often you need to get matching glibc and other dynamic libraries that the program was compiled against. Which isn’t the end of the world as the dynamic linker will look in the local directory where the program is first for libraries, but it becomes a hassle pretty quickly.

aGeN,

Llllllllllllllllllllllllllllollolllllllllllllllloooooooooooooiollllomkuuu’kj|mlll

DarkDarkHouse,
@DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

No need to bring Icelandic volcanoes into this

merthyr1831,

stick it into a distrobox container and then package that into a flatpak on the AUR. 😎👍

kelseybcool,

I know all the words that aren’t nouns in that sentence!

OneCardboardBox, (edited )

distrobox: Tool for creating one-off containers of a different Linux distro.

container: A virtual OS environment that runs on your computer, but doesn’t know that it’s running in your computer. It’s not the same as a VM or emulator.

flatpak: A tool designed by RedHat for running sandboxed Linux programs in any environment. Flatpak can either refer to the system as a whole (eg: “You need to install flatpak on your machine to use our tools”) or an individual program packaged for the flatpak system (eg: “You must download the latest flatpak of Firefox”).

AUR: The Arch User Repository. A collection of installation scripts to add software to Arch Linux. These scripts are not owned or maintained by anyone officially affiliated with Arch, so you can find AUR packages for almost anything.

So, the comment becomes: Stick it in a dedicated environment designed to run Debian. Then package it so anyone can run it. Then make it easy for anyone running Arch Linux to install it.

halva,
@halva@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

flatpak… is unrelated to redhat, at least at the moment

it was initially made as a side project by a person who worked at red hat on containers, nowadays it’s developed by freedesktop.org

prettydarknwild,
@prettydarknwild@lemmy.world avatar

If you use arch that isnt a problem

teuniac_,

It’s just maintaining arch that was a bit of a headache for me. I loved having access to the AUR and being able to use bleeding edge… well, everything. But too much of my time ended up going to fixing issues after updates or finding out what package to choose when there were conflicts during updates.

0x2d,

endeavouros (based on arch, sway wm) is working great for me and I update it nearly every day

guckfoogle,

Debtap to the rescue

callyral,
@callyral@pawb.social avatar

i’m pretty sure you can extract them with ar x and get the binary

piexil,

You could also attempt converting them with alien or FPM

satnififu,

Give it 2 days and chances are someone has already published a PKGBUILD in the AUR

jackpot,
@jackpot@lemmy.ml avatar

aur?

Genericusername,

Arch User Repository. If you’re using Arch, you get the basic stuff from the official repositories. But for most programs there’s the AUR. They’re often less polished, some of it may be proprietary. There are package managers dedicated for it, that also know to handle the official repositories. Read more

user224,
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Hey, I see you tried to make this link: Read more, but you did it wrong. The exclamation mark (!) in front of a link is used for embedding media.
Tip: You can embed image into link to create a button

Asudox,
@Asudox@lemmy.world avatar

Btw are you a bot or not

user224, (edited )
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I am not a bot. (I believe)

madcaesar,

Someone explain this to my dumb ass.

Baleine,
@Baleine@jlai.lu avatar

Deb files are debian packages, so if you’re not on debian you can’t install it

cupcakezealot, (edited )
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I don’t understand why would people not be on debian does not compute

Lime66, (edited )
  • Incredibly old and likely no longer updated packages
  • the devs are expected to backport their security fixes to these packages, which can create an outrageous amount of work

I don’t understand why would people not be on debian does not compute

I don’t understand why someone would want to be on Debian, what actual advantage does it have.

thisbenzingring,

Stability, slow changes, predictable, strong history, lots of distributions are based on it, the list goes on and on. I don’t use it but it’s kinda stupid to question it’s relevant qualities considering how much it’s brought to the Linux community.

Lime66,

Lots of distros are based on Ubuntu, does that make Ubuntu an amazing distro?

thisbenzingring,

They are based on Debian then, not Ubuntu. They are just reworked.

Lime66,

They are based on both in that case

thisbenzingring,

Is it using APT? If so, guess what…

puppy,

Also don’t forget that Debian is completely community driven, unlike Redhat’s distros which face some controversy.

Honytawk,

For the .deb packages, obviously.

Did you not read the post?

molochthagod,

Relax, guys, Debian and not Debian both have their pros and cons. The variety of options is what’s so beautiful about Linux.

tslnox,

I’m on Gentoo for example. I can write an ebuild to automatically download said deb, extract it, install it with the package manager… And if the site has any semblance of organization involved, I can write one ebuild that will always download the version specified in its name, so when there is an update, I can copy the ebuild, change its name to new version and if the dependencies or structure didn’t change, it will install just fine without any work.

InternetCitizen2,

That sounds really cool.

Genericusername,

I am quite comfortable finding my way around ArchLinux, and recently decided to give Gentoo a try. I didn’t expect it to be that much harder but all the cflags, emerge, conflicts and updates feels like black magic. I guess that if you know your way around Gentoo, reverse-engineering a deb file is not a real challenge. However I’m assuming that most Linux users would hope for a less involved solution.

snek_boi, (edited )

You could check out NixOS :)

Hawke,

… Debian, or one of the many excellent Debian-based distros

LeFantome,

If it is only available as a .deb, it is probably targeting Ubuntu specifically.

Ubuntu is a derivative of Debian and uses the same package format. Ubuntu is much more popular though and the packages are not completely compatible.

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

If it is only available as a .deb, it is probably targeting Ubuntu specifically.

Did you mean versus another Debian derivative like PopOS, or versus a non-Debian derivative like Fedora, etc.?

leap123,
@leap123@lemmy.world avatar

My dumbass without DistroBox:


<span style="color:#323232;">$ ar x package.deb
</span>
Diplomjodler,

Only n00bs install packages. Cool people compile from source.

Birchoff,

That’s still just mid level. Cool people codes everything from scratch by just looking at some pictures

onlinepersona,

Wrong, they use butterflies.

JargonWagon,

Only n00bs code their programs from scratch. Cool people build their own kernel, OS, compiler, and coding language, and they already have that program built in.

Senuf,

Only n00bs build their own kernel, OS, compiler, and coding language, and they already have that program built in. Cool people create their own universe, with different laws of physics and constants, then they make it act as a whole computing entity capable of anything, it then creates a simulation in which we discuss this stuff.

bort,
Andonno, (edited )

Laughs in soldering logic gates out of vacuum tubes.
You amateurs and your software, real programmers work in lead and tin.

Sunfoil,

Like that schizo guy who did TempleOS. The ultimate computer man.

Phen,

I did, but I also made my own internet and it gets lonely there.

Asudox,
@Asudox@lemmy.world avatar

That’s nothing, only n00bs do that. Cool people code in binary; the real programming language.

AssPennies,

TempleOS has entered the chat.

skippedtoc,

Only available as Deb file.

RickyRigatoni,
@RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml avatar

He forgot to compile reading comprehension from source.

LeFantome,

He is so cool that he is reverse engineering the source and compiling from there.

Diplomjodler,

HE’S TRYING TO INSTALL PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE!!! GET THE TORCHES AND PITCHFORKS!!!

hardcoreufo,

This is why you use glorious Debian.

jabathekek,
@jabathekek@sopuli.xyz avatar

(☝◞‸◟)☞

jasondj,

Just switched a couple of my systems from Pop and Fedora (gnome) to Debian 12 w/ KDE Plasma.

All in l I like it. I don’t like where Canonical or RedHat are moving, for the FOSS consumer. Canonical is making huge strides as an enterprise distro but for home use I’ve really moved away from it since Unity.

Originally I went Fedora because my office was a RHEL shop but we’re moving towards Ubuntu.

Subverb,

I’m a light Linux user with windows 11 on my work dev machine.

I started using Linux Mint and it’s the right speed for me. Switched to Mint LMDE 6. It’s smooth.

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

So what? You don’t know how to unpack .deb?

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