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electric_nan, in Is Ubuntu deserving the hate?

I’m quite happy with Linux Mint Debian Edition. I think it is the future of Mint. It’s on a very recent kernel, and more and more software I use nowadays is in Flatpaks anyways. I don’t feel like I’m missing out on much new stuff, but maybe I’m just not aware.

dan,
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How different is it from regular Debian? Like if I’m very experienced with Debian, does that equate to being able to easily use Mint Debian Edition too?

electric_nan,

I found normal Debian to be a little unpolished for my liking. Even using the Cinnamon DE, it was lacking some niceties that Mint brings. I don’t think you’ll have any trouble using Mint.

MiddledAgedGuy, in Is Ubuntu deserving the hate?

Ubuntu is a tough one. I don’t like it. I don’t like snaps, but more than that I don’t like their direction in general.

But I have some respect for them too. I think they played a pretty significant role in Linux being as popular (relatively speaking) as it is, and I don’t feel like they have any ill intent.

So I don’t personally care for it but I’m glad it’s around I guess is my point?

glibg10b, in Just moved to Linux: a follow up

borked my bootloader and had to do a fresh install

That’s where you’re wrong :)

Corr,

You’re right. I spent a few hours trying to fix it before giving up and determined that reinstalling would be quicker lol

glibg10b,

Before you can fix a bootloader, you first need to learn how to install and set up a bootloader. I think most people learn that part when they try Arch

AngryCommieKender,

Do it with Debian Unstable

CaptainProton, in As a normal, boring user that does nothing special other than browse the internet and the occasional "casual coding" -- what am I supposed to do with 32GiB of ram?

Just open a few more Chrome tabs: a couple of Ali Express and Amazon pages and a few YouTube videos and couple Reddit posts, and you’ll be wondering why you only got 32.

YIj54yALOJxEsY20eU, in are tiling WM good only for terminal?

I use multiple GUIs with i3 and would not have it any other way. They work great and I can control them with the keyboard!

Vinegar, in Is Ubuntu deserving the hate?
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I avoid Ubuntu because Canonical has a history of going their own way alone rather than collaborating on universal standards. For instance, when the X devs decided the successor to X11 needed to be a complete redesign from scratch companies like RedHat, Collabora, Intel, Google, Samsung, and more collaborated to build Wayland. However, Canonical announced Mir, and they went their own way alone.

When Gnome3 came out it was very controversial and this spawned alternatives such as Cinnamin, MATE, and Ubuntu's Unity desktop. Unity was the only Linux desktop, before or since, to include sponsored bloatware apps installed by default, and it also sold user search history to advertisers.

Then, there's snap. While Flatpak matured and becoame the defacto standard distro-agnostic package system, Canonical once again went their own way alone by creating snap.

I'm not an expert on Ubuntu or the Linux community, I've just been around long enough to see Canonical stir up controversy over and over by going left when everyone else goes right, failing after a few years, and wasting thousands of worker hours in the process.

actionjbone,

You’re not wrong, but there’s also value in exploring different ways to do similar things. That’s what’s great about Linux.

Some of Canonical’s efforts may lead to failure, but that doesn’t mean they are a waste.

nossaquesapao,

One thing is to explore different ways to do things, like many projects do, but ubuntu goes further and FORCES people to use their experiments, as if they’re some sort of testing ground, not as if they’re the most used family of linux distros and the one a lot of people rely on.

Edit: Sorry if my tone was excessive, I think I’m getting grumpy with age.

actionjbone,

Haha, I get it. No offense taken.

I don’t disagree. But for better or worse, most people don’t think that much about their software.

Folks like us who do? We can make informed decisions.

Folks who don’t? Canonical’s experiments are probably still better than dealing with Windows 11 or macOS.

jherazob,
@jherazob@beehaw.org avatar

Pretty much this, they don’t deserve hate but i won’t recommend them either

donescobar, in As a normal, boring user that does nothing special other than browse the internet and the occasional "casual coding" -- what am I supposed to do with 32GiB of ram?

2 Chrome tabs at the same time!

juli, in Is Ubuntu deserving the hate?

What if you just use distrobox in the future? You can use debian/ubuntu with it on whatever system you use. On my fedora silverblue installation almost everything is seperated from the OS. I barely touch the OS. It doesn’t really matter if I’m on silverblue, microos or vanillaos. I want to switch to microos because it comes with firefox as a flatpak ootb and other minor things. It’s jist not worth it anymore to switch the distro

EmilyIsTrans, in Is Ubuntu deserving the hate?
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I’m pretty happy using Ubuntu. Its got a decent UI and works well enough with little fuss. As much as I enjoy tinkering, I use my Ubuntu machines for work and I really only need something simple that works out of the box.

EmilyIsTrans,
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Also, while the applications I use can be installed on other platforms, they’re only supported on Ubuntu.

banazir, in Is Ubuntu deserving the hate?
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I mean, I know that we are suppose to hate it for Snaps and what not but…

There is no “supposed to” when it comes to distro preferences. Use whatever you like, other people’s opinions do not dictate your behavior. If Ubuntu works for you, use that. If anything, that’s the freedom of FOSS. You can take other people’s views in to account when choosing a distro, but in the end it is your decision. I dislike Ubuntu for a few reasons, but I don’t get to dictate to anyone else what they use and why.

If you like rolling release, you could try Debian sid/unstable. I hear it’s quite stable and reliable and, of course, isn’t Ubuntu.

IsThisLoss, in Calamares 3.3 Released as the Next Generation Graphical Installer for Linux - 9to5Linux

neato

wiki_me, in Is Ubuntu deserving the hate?

It’s pitched as a open source operation system, yet the snap store is closed source and vendor locked, one of the reasons some of us use Liniux is because we prefer open source (and there are rational justifications for that).

Hate is a strong word, but there is legitimate criticism, I also think the closed source nature of snap led to the fact that it has no volunteers and that eventually caused malware to appear on the snap store multiple time, it never happened on flathub as far as i know.

Today for beginner i think opensuse and linux mint are better.

Regarding debian having old packages , i use nix but it is fairly immature, flathub should also work.

MTK, in As a normal, boring user that does nothing special other than browse the internet and the occasional "casual coding" -- what am I supposed to do with 32GiB of ram?

Not really RAM but you can support science!

makeuseof.com/…/10-ways-to-donate-your-cpu-time-t…

cmeerw, in Is Ubuntu deserving the hate?

I still think Ubuntu is the best option (particularly if you want to use the non-LTS releases)

Having said that I do hate snaps and also dislike flatpaks. So what I do is just use the Firefox deb package from the PPA and the chromium package from Linux Mint. Oh, and I have actually replaced ubuntu-advantage-tools with a no-op dummy package.

DangerousInternet, in Translation / dictionary workflow in GNOME/ Linux?
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They both require translate-shell… Light Dict did not worked for me, too. Translate Indicator works, but I can not paste text, only type it, that is not cool, otherwise that extension would be good.

I use Dialect app, which is ‘integrated’ to gnome search. ‘’ because integration does not mean text is autotranslated, you need to click dialect and the app opens with search query. But it works and works better, than those extensions.

juli,

Did you try Meta + T? It’ll open the popup and I can paste into it.

How does the dialect integration work? What do you type into the search?

DangerousInternet,
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I type anything, or usually just ctrl-v, and one of the options is to open this query in Dialect. So that is not real integration where you would see translation right in search, which would be awesome. I do not need to translate things often, so separate app without occupying any memory is OK for me. I tested those extensions just for curiosity if they are super good, but they are not…

juli,

Thx.

It doesn’t work for me. That’s probably because of flatpak, I have the same issue with calc.

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