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gullible, in Biden-Harris Administration Approves Largest Offshore Wind Project in the Nation

What are the benefits of putting them offshore?

silence7,

Basically:

  • Wind blows more consistently
  • Wind blows at different times from onshore
  • It’s a big area you can set up wind farms in, while property ownership in the eastern US is typically in the form of lots of small parcels, making it difficult to accumulate enough contiguous land for a large wind farm
  • It’s close to major urban areas
Rolder,

I would add that, depending on how far off shore it is, that the NIMBY factor is less of a problem

silence7,

When you’re way out to sea, the NIMBY folks switch to fighting the spot where the cable comes ashore.

Rolder,

I said less of a problem, rather then not a problem 🤣

MrMakabar,
@MrMakabar@slrpnk.net avatar

Also the turbines can be much larger. The blades have to be a single piece, to withstand the forces on it. That obviously causes problems transporting them on land. Modern offshore wind turbine blades are single pieces of over 100m, so longer then a football pitch. However that is not a problem offshore. The reason you want it is that with blade length the energy produced grows exponentially.

guyrocket,
@guyrocket@kbin.social avatar

Sad to me that few upvote questions around here. This is a good question to ask. Thank you for asking.

SomeoneSomewhere, in 2023 Solar Glass Breakthrough: Driving A New Era of Sustainability

Pretty pictures, but the standard reminders for putting solar in stupid places weren’t addressed, and still apply:

  • Solar panel manufacturing, financing, and installation remain the bottlenecks. We therefore need to make the most of every panel/kW installed, not just install more.
  • Panels therefore need to be installed where they get the maximum sunlight possible: no shade, up high, facing mostly upwards with preferably a slight tilt towards the equator. Vertical is bad unless you’re in the arctic.
  • There remains no shortage of uncovered roofspace. A given m² of panel is going to produce much more energy on a half decent roof than anywhere else except a tracking array.
  • Even if you somehow manage to run out of roof, building more roof (e.g. covering parking lots) is going to be better in every way than trying to squeeze the panels into other stupid places.
  • Very dense areas full of skyscrapers don’t really have parking lots - but the windows aren’t really going to do any better; they’ll be shaded 75% of the time. We want windows on large buildings to be shaded; it decreases solar heat gain and therefore aircon loads.
CJOtheReal, in 2023 Solar Glass Breakthrough: Driving A New Era of Sustainability

Thats Great!

RecallMadness, in Indonesia's Geothermal Energy May Produce 24 Gigawatts of Electricity

24GW is ~160% of the current worldwide production (15GW) and ~2400% of their current production … Impressive.

SirToxicAvenger, in Indonesia's Geothermal Energy May Produce 24 Gigawatts of Electricity

total for the country it sounds like. that’s a lot - but can they make it earthquake/tsunami/volcano proof?

keepthepace, in The EU is offering as much green funding as the US IRA. So why aren’t innovators getting it?

it’s just less obvious how to get it.

Understatement of the year. Some companies are specialized in just helping you fill the form for that.

Dogyote, in Artificial Photosynthesis Advances: Turning Sunlight Into Fuel

This is a cool idea, hopefully it can scale up. Could it be used for large scale carbon removal? How does it compare to current carbon removal methods?

abobla, in Artificial Photosynthesis Advances: Turning Sunlight Into Fuel

damn that’s crazy

UBER_Gheist,

We move closer and closer to the solar punk future😁

Antitoxic9087, in The momentum of the solar energy transition

Seems too conservative projection for wind energy, but yeah most experts agree solar will be dominant.

Antitoxic9087,

I mean I understand this is modeling a pathway with no further climate policy, but still wind being second cheapest option should gain more share.

shasta,

I think the assumption is that since they are large and but the first most cost efficient, it doesn’t make sense to increase its share. Why not just put more solar instead?

Antitoxic9087,

I see from this paper that compared with Way et al. (2022), they introduced “learning in operational costs, rather than only in CAPEX”, which benefits solar and offshore wind, also “solar power and wind energy see a higher learning rate than previous model versions”. So very surprised wind not gaining more.

It is difficult to compare the results of Way et al. (2022) and this paper directly since in the former final and usable energy were reported and here it is electricity that is reported in the text, although from their relative share (both across time and wind vs solar at a given time), the conditions for solar is probably more favorable and wind growth is more constrained in this paper.

(Note: if I recalled correctly, Way et al. were the first to develop this system dynamics model that made learning rates endogenous feedback processes.)

mbelcher, in Half of Americans can’t install solar panels. Community solar is how they can plug into the sun.
@mbelcher@kbin.social avatar

The "half of americans" in the headline is those that live in apartment buildings.

No roof, no solar power.
That has been the dispiriting equation shutting out roughly half of all Americans from plugging into the sun.

While community solar is indeed awesome, we need to have apartment and commercial buildings install solar as well.

keepthepace,

I think it is also ok to accept that cities won’t produce all that they consume. They need to import food, water, makes sense that they import energy too.

JacobCoffinWrites, in Vermont Utility Plans to End Outages by Giving Customers Batteries
@JacobCoffinWrites@slrpnk.net avatar

This seems like it would remove one of the barriers for entry from installing solar panels

silence7, (edited )

Lack of batteries hasn’t really been a barrier; people generally sell excess power generated back to their utility during the day and use electricity from their utility at night.

Terms are almost always that the rate you get paid for generation is less than what you pay to have electricity delivered though

JacobCoffinWrites,
@JacobCoffinWrites@slrpnk.net avatar

Ah, I’d had this impression from other conversations that batteries were half the cost of getting into solar, but perhaps that was for going off grid altogether (in which case I’d imagine the power company would want their battery back)

silence7, (edited )

Yeah, if you want to go fully off-grid, it’s a lot more expensive; you need enough batteries to store full overnight power, and you need enough solar panels to charge them on a cloudy day in winter. It’s cheaper to do an on-grid system where you generate as much electricity as you use over the course of a year, which is a lot more common.

moonsnotreal, in Vermont Utility Plans to End Outages by Giving Customers Batteries
@moonsnotreal@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

This would be nice because during bad winter storms the power can go out for days. Not really in town, but if you live in more rural areas it can be an issue.

silence7,

You probably won’t get power for days from one of these unless you pair it with rooftop solar and (maybe) a community wind turbine supported microgrid

ProdigalFrog, in Vermont Utility Plans to End Outages by Giving Customers Batteries

Interesting, as a Vermonter this is the first I’ve heard of this proposal, and I’m pleasantly surprised with GMP’s plan. I live somewhat out in the boonies, and experience power outages at least a few times every year, sometimes lasting a couple days, with one particularly bad winter storm leaving us without power for over a week (the old wood stove really came in handy then). I’d absolutely love to have a battery installed, if they ever offer it to me.

keepthepace, in Ireland: Wind power outstrips electricity demand for the first time

I think people do not realize that there is a huge bonus for the first country to unlock the “negative price energy peak” achievement.

There are some businesses that will only be possible in these conditions and they will flock to the first country with it. Generating hydrogen seems like the most straightforward one, but there are also bio-ethanol processes that require some energy to be profitable.

We see intermittency as a curse, but I think we overestimate the difficulty to adapt to an intermittent schedule and we underestimate the advantage of having time spans with free energy, especially when they happen during the day.

LufyCZ,

I wouldn’t be so sure, at least yet. In Europe, everything’s connected, so they’ll just end up selling it to other countries.

Can imagine that it’s better than selling it to random local companies for next to nothing

keepthepace,

Yes, right now we don’t see this effect because the obvious thing to do is to sell it to your neighbor so they can temporarily shut down coal or gas plants. That effect will kick in when your neighbors can’t do that anymore (e.g. because they also switched to the same type of intermittent power) and there won’t be any easy way to cash out on additional electricity. We are not there yet.

coco, in Ireland: Wind power outstrips electricity demand for the first time

Tooo many birds diess

silence7,

Funny how cats and windows kill orders of magnitude more

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