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That was a joke relating to the title of the video. But the fact that your takeaways from the video were that it concerns liberals versus conservatives and that it’s not leftist media, shows why the message of the video is more important than ever. This message is for all ideological biases. If Lemmy disagrees with the video, it means it’s hitting a nerve and thus more important than public opinion.
For what it’s worth, I never said it was liberals versus conservatives, I said it was about liberals and conservatives, because those are the terms Van Jones chose to use, and the groups/labels he chose to focus on.
I don’t think it’s people disagreeing with the video. I don’t disagree with the video. He’s right. I think Van Jones is essentially right. But it’s boring, I’ve heard it before, I know all the stuff he said. And maybe I’m naive to believe that most people here, in this community, have already heard all the things he’s saying, but I do.
But most of all, it’s not BreadTube. I don’t think people are disagreeing, and I don’t think it touched a nerve. I think that like me, most downvotes are people saying this doesn’t belong here.
I’m not ideologically opposed to any of this. But it’s just not BreadTube.
I’m amazed that a drunk German guy could logic this stuff out in the 1860’s while people today with the internet don’t even understand how their own lives are controlled by economics. Most people don’t even know how the electricity gets to their lights. There is a dearth of education in our society.
Yeah he was. I just find it funny that he understood this more than century ago, while the average American doesn’t even understand what’s in their cereal. It’s wild.
Definition of liberalism for the many lemmings here who don’t understand it.
“A political theory founded on the natural goodness of humans and the autonomy of the individual and favoring civil and political liberties, government by law with the consent of the governed, and protection from arbitrary authority.”
This is a very broad definition that applies to basically any anti-authoritarian government. No government type has a perfect record historically, but liberal governments have a decent track record compared to authoritarian govenements (ie fascism/communism/feudalism/theocracy). Lemmy tends to lean communist which according to Freidrich Engels is authoritarian. Funny enough democratic socialism is actually liberal by this definition.
This woman is in her 90s and has obviously lost touch with reality like most 90 year olds. I would love to hear an argument againest the definition of liberalism over these ad hominem attacks on the elderly.
That last line in the video. That’s exactly what happens when they finally realize you caught them in the racist/revisionist shit. They go on the attack with something absolutely inane.
We all do at times. I struggle to listen. Listen to the people around you, they say more than just words. Usually when people are angry, it’s because something else is bothering them, but they can’t recognize or communicate it.
True. We all share the same vulnerability, but I think it is one remarkably germane to the structural criticisms of the “white liberal”.
Notice Pryor’s clever tactics for exposing Fuldheim’s indifference to any contribution that may validate the substantive or lived experiences of anyone marginalized.
(Pryor of course is Black American, and also was raised in abject poverty.)
Just found this guy last night. He has some great insights you might enjoy. I’m trying to understand liberal psychology, ie, harm reduction and maintaining the status quo. Any starting points you can think of that might help me would be appreciated.
Liberal psychology is based on a collective delusion that alienates an ideal, presented as universal, from any immediate experience, such that all meaningful experience by an individual alienates the individual from the rest of society, who perceives only the ideal.
Thus, all unity from shared experience is annihilated by servility to the abstract.
Yeah it kinda hit me during 2020 (and I'm ashamed it took that long) that black entertainers (not exclusively, but in particular) have been ringing the bell about this for decades. It really drove home that these are not recent problems, they are only recently (in my experience) getting mainstream coverage.
I rewatched all episodes of Chappelle's Show during 2020 (in between watching the daily livestream of police cracking skulls) - and realized that even where there wasn't a skit about police brutality, there was at least a one liner in his monologue about it - without fail.
I also recognize that police brutality is but one symptom and doesn't really get at root causes, but it's a symptom I admit to being blind to for a good chunk of my life, so it really tends to grab my attention now. I grew up in a bubble of "these problems were solved before you were born" and was definitely one of those "the cops must have a had a reason" folks for longer than I want to admit. Pretty sure I had members in my extended family who would have responded just like the woman in your clip from OP.
Cutting myself short here before this becomes a novel. I'll summarize as, it's sad to see how little things have changed in some ways.
Pretty much the same as you. It happened to me while trying to understand the support for Trump. Now I’m overwhelmed and frustrated that this knowledge was suppressed for most of my life.
I watched a 1976 Pryor stand-up in 2020 and I couldn’t laugh at all. The country was reeling over the murder of George Floyd and Pryor’s jokes were all about police officers murdering black people. That’s when it finally hit me that despite all the outward progress we’ve made, the exact same problems are plaguing BPOC still, 47 years later. Like what in the actual fuck? I guess his audience laughed because of the shock value of it, nobody before him had the courage to outright say the things he was saying, but watching it 47 years later while the exact same problems are happening wasn’t funny, it was depressing and infuriating.
I had that exact awakening during the same timeframe.
Like holy shit - I have been laughing at Chapelle, and Rock, and Pryor, and others, thinking these were just jokes. No, they were never just jokes.
I felt ridiculous that I'd grown up in such a bubble that my reaction had been to think these were solved problems that were being made fun of just because they were sort of part of the zeitgeist a that point.
So much respect for these guys putting it out there, but I feel a little ashamed of how long it took me to start realizing these were NOT solved problems.
Groomers are the ones that scream “What about the children” the loudest, while indoctrinating them into religion and cult nonsense as young as possible.
It’s good to document the resulting problems, but the analysis of the root cause is absolute shit and is clearly done by liberals (confirmed by them interviewing AOC and uncritically broadcasting what she says without calling her on her own support of colonialism, genocide, and capitalist exploitation). They blame this on a “lack of rules.” Bullshit. If there were no rules (laws), the local population would simply kick the rich people out and expropriate their shit. I think you’ll find there are plenty of rules and plenty of enforcement. The problem is just that all of that law and order is directed squarely against the working class and indigenous populations.
“More rules” isn’t a recipe for fixing anything. People rising up is. Fortunately there was a little anarchist graffiti on that school’s wall. So these liberal journalists are not the only people advocating for solutions.
Chairman of the Ayn Rand Institute, Yaron Brook, boasts of having relocated to Puerto Rico, as part of his shtick demanding taxes are theft.
I suppose someone with such a mentality finds some kind of joy in being estranged both to the populations from which he has originated and to the one that has become involuntarily his host.
There can be no doubt that the population that repairs his cars and cleans his clothes shares with him no common interests, him being such a clueless, privileged white dude who rants nonsensical pitches no one wants to hear.
So many people running whataboutism interference for the apartheid regime in this thread 🤦
We get it! Nobody sane is saying that the atrocities of Hamas are excusable! That doesn’t free the Israeli government from responsibility for their decades of oppression, genocide and systematic displacement of the Palestinian people, though.
So I guess that would make all Americans fascists from 2017 to 2019 at the earliest? 🙄
Newsflash: there’s absolutely no proof that Hamas enjoy majority support, let alone the universal support you seem to assume. If they did, they’d probably have had an election much more recently.
Their argument is terrible, but it would actually apply better to Americans than Gazans, because at least Americans have some freedom of travel. (Of course, most couldn’t just emigrate to Canada or Mexico due to many issues, the biggest of which is money, but they wouldn’t be held back by the USA because they were never granted a birth certificate, for example.)
I have seen many people say that terrorism from Hamas is excusable due to the actions of the Israeli government. Obviously the Israeli government has done many things they absolutely should not have, but that does not excuse terrorism like many people on Lemmy have said.
I have seen many people say that terrorism from Hamas is excusable
Correction: a tiny minority of the most deranged tankies. I specified nobody SANE.
excuse terrorism like many people on Lemmy have said.
Same tiny minority of tankies. There’s a lot of tankies here but even amongst them, the condemnation of Hamas’ actions is near-universal.
The same isn’t the case with supporters of the Israeli government. They are wont to say "Israel has a right to defend itself " as if decades of oppression, genocide and displacement coupled with extremely disproportionate responses are just necessary self defense 🤦
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