Have you ever visited this place? I have heard they have very nice food and heavy transportation and so many cool mass events.
I was planning to go there for a trip but I have heard bad reviews from the past.
Also I was thinking to extend trip to the Xinjiang province to see the wonderful cultural and religion diversity they are famous for. However some folks tell me this changed recently?
Well, call me a tankie, but I don’t see the issue with a coup attempt leaving ~240 dead (mostly policemen and radical communist protestors), or the government cracking down on extremists after absolutely massive terrorist attacks. Both have happened in my country (Spain), much worse than there, and I see no one complaining. And even that is nothing compared to what the US did after 9/11!
Everybody seems to pretend that they would not actually want the government to take such actions if their life was in such danger. Like, hell, if I had as many terrorist attacks in my region as Xinjiang used to have, I would be cheering for the government to nuke all extremists from orbit. That’s what happened here and we had a fraction of that.
Edit: also, I’ve never heard of those events in Spanish media, if I were from the US I would really wonder why I hear about them so much. So hopefully when everybody’s sent to die in Taiwan I don’t fall for the old trick of manufactured consent.
Edit: I promise to do some moro thorough research on the events. Thanks for your thoughtful responses.
It’s okay to disagree, but I don’t see how your comment contributes to the conversation. Let me clarify my point: the actions taken by the Chinese government are in line both with what any other country usually does in similar conditions and Chinese citizens’ desires.
The morality of US actions can be debated about but 1k plus people died on 9/11 in a terrorist which obviously led to tensions running high. On the other hand, the Chinese government saw a peaceful protest and immediately mobilized its army on its own people.
The leader of the protestors actually stated on western media that they needed “bloodshed”, “only then will the Chinese people wake up”, so idk how “peaceful” it was supposed to be. And the army didn’t attack them, in fact the fights only started after both the army and protestors had left the square and a few protestors attacked the anti-riot policemen.
And it’s common practice to mobilize the army anyway, Spain has done every time a territory has tried to declare itself independent. The Tiananmen square protest lasted several days, so obviouly someone had to (peacefully) disperse protestors.
As far as I'm aware the leader was alone in that opinion. Not only did the army use live ammunition, they used a kind that caused maximum damage. Completely unjustified - and on student protestors - not terrorists.
I went there in 2009. I was too young to appreciate the culture. Locals were busy selling tourists goods and I wasn’t even sure what to soak in at the square.
No, but sometimes I have a dinner with my wife and I want to say 'Honey, can you give me the salt?' but instead I say 'Fuck the evil chinese government'.
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