Metal_Zealot,
@Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

Could you imagine Laptop manufacturers saying “do NOT download apps from other websites. ONLY download from the Windows App Store”

Like, fuck off Pichai, you’re insane

Are phones the only devices out there that receive such scrutiny in the tech world?? My laptop can literally do the exact same thing but better

ILikeBoobies,

People should do that though

It’s good security practice to use your package manager and if you have to download off the internet then you should build it yourself

redcalcium,

You usually can add more repo/source to your package manager though.

ILikeBoobies,

You over estimate the average user if you trust them for that

Umbrias,

Not really planning on sacrificing privacy and safety from monopolies by doing that thanks. Not everybody’s threat model is that ridiculous.

rob299,

I will with you halfway through with this, here is how I view it.

If you have little experience with telling between safe sources and sketchy, then yes, stick with the defualt.

If ypuu know about some safe appstores or repositories then that’s when you could say you are qualified to make thes decisions. Like I know Fdroid is safer and better than the defialt on everyway for the users best interest, but if you dont know your sources then you should not sidelode untill you do know how to make good decisions.

rob299, (edited )

That’s different then the owner off the defualt android appstore telling you. If a device manufactuer did say this, i’d question why.

Did google pay them to?? or more specific to your comment did microsoft pay them

skozzii,

Id rather become a hermit than pay for and give up all my privacy like these assholes want. Boycott everything, enough is enough. Even grocery companies are gouging us with record profits.

Stop spending $$.

rob299, (edited )

Just one question,are you certian all of them are seeing record profits, sure the big names like kroger might be but what about the smaller ones.

danielfgom,
@danielfgom@lemmy.world avatar

Clearly this is BS. Sideloading is perfectly safe if you just reputable resources.

What he’s really saying if that the average user is too dumb and will install any rubbish from anywhere. He’s not wrong but that shouldn’t prevent competent users from sideloading.

At least they’ve made the process scary enough that the average user don’t even bother to do it

It’s a non issue that shouldn’t be given any time.

I’ve sideloaded for years and never had any malware.

rob299, (edited )

He doesnt want to name specific types of people or it might make it seem like google attacking specific people. So instead all users get bundled in this. They will use the most careless users as a reason to take it away from all users. It benefits them.

I think that Google really just wants to get less and less people to sideload and then shame others that do through public shaming. ‘oh that’s dangersous son; you shouldn’t be sideloading that Fdroid app! Google said so.’ That’s why they brought it up to begin with, this is as google goes over court with epic games over the app store fee.

Metal_Zealot,
@Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

I can advise Pichai to lick my nuts

RobMyBot,

It’s not often I upvote a comment suggesting someone lick their nuts.

DontTreadOnBigfoot,
@DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world avatar

I on the other hand will always upvote someone suggesting nut licking

Metal_Zealot,
@Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

That’s the spirit

hakunawazo,

Surprised Pichai face

madcaesar,

Second

moitoi,

I would not made those assomption. You would be surprised.

Mr_nutter_butter,
@Mr_nutter_butter@lemmy.world avatar

If playstore wasn’t utter shite maybe I wouldn’t sideload apps

netchami,

As long as an advertising company that spies on everyone owns and controls the Play Store, it will always be a complete and utter piece of garbage

Auli,

What’s Apples excuse? Their store seems worse then Googles.

netchami,

Don’t even get me started on the flaws with Apple, their walled garden and the App Store

It’s the reason I left the Apple ecosystem and switched to a far superior operating system that actually respects the user and gives them freedom over their devices. GrapheneOS is awesome!

rar,

If we’re not careful there will be a new generation of users who have no concept of “apps” at all, and will conflate sideloading (or anything ‘not authorized’) with an illegal process.

netchami,

Google CEO Pichai can go fuck himself.

Fuck you Pichai, fuck you Google, fuck you Big Tech. I’m not doing what you are telling me, I’m not using your crappy proprietary services that are built to spy on everyone, I’m not watching your shitty advertisements, I’m definitely not giving you any of my data. I hope your piece of shit company goes bankrupt and you end up on the street, that’s where you belong to. I’m not a slave of your totalitarian system, I’m free to choose where I download my software and what software I want to run on my devices. I do everything to avoid your surveillance capitalism, I use FLOSS software wherever I can. Your business model is a piece of trash, it will inevitably fail at some point. I am sure that you will try to do everything to mislead the public and to get them to believe your lies, but not everyone is as stupid as you would like them to be.

ToNIX,

Fuck you I won’t do what you tell me 🎵

rem26_art,
@rem26_art@kbin.social avatar

naa i'll keep doing what I'm doing

netchami,

That’s the only right option

uzay,

K thx bye I’m not logging in with a google account on my phone

netchami,

Based

AnarchoCummunist,

Sorry, not sorry, not giving up on New Pipe. Best ad-free YouTube experience, period.

rob299,

That’s ultamately what they want you to do. to give up on f-droid, and alternative app clients, and alternative free apps in general.

netchami,

They want you to give up your freedom

GrayBoltWolf,
@GrayBoltWolf@lemmy.world avatar

What he really means is “we want our 30% cut”

netchami,

What he really means is “we want to take your freedom away and lock you into our proprietary ecosystem so we can mine all of your data and extract as much profit from you as possible”

That’s why you should use GrapheneOS

rob299, (edited )

oh oh. a new tech war is coming for independant app developers.

I hope this doesn’t lead to Google to keep saying this repeativly for awhile and eventually removing the feature to side loading apps in the feature, them saying saying something like ‘sideloading an old outdated way we use to use the internet and it has security flaws’

They really just want to kill f-droid. Once they do that, it gets harder to block Youtube ads after all. Apps like new pipe would have to find a new home.

Are devs people going to wake up and make a new commercial os that will actual compete with android and iOS? no a new Linux distro is not going to come anywhere close to even, Macos marketshare. It needs to be new, and needs to be preloaded on computers and sell in stores. It needs to be simple.

MigratingtoLemmy,

I really hope linux phones take off by then at which point I’ll switch for certain

rob299,

I meant as a user, go ahead and switch to it. But to rid of the monopoly, they nee competition. No one is creating that for normies who don’t know how to Linux. If Linux phones make their way into walmarts and targets, then maybeee. It has to be as simple as buy it, and use it. like how you buy a Nintendo switch and it just works.

MigratingtoLemmy,

If only there was a working compatibility layer from Linux to plain Android.

netchami,

Use GrapheneOS, it’s a completely independent non-profit mobile security research project that has probably created the most secure mobile operating system out there. GrapheneOS doesn’t use any Google services by default, and it makes fundamental security improvements to the entire Android operating system stack. It also doesn’t have an official app store that comes with system privileges, so technically every app installation on GrapheneOS is ‘sideloading’. In my opinion, it’s by far the best option for a mobile OS.

disconnectikacio,

Of course i do, and install more and more sideload apps. Newpipe is good, smarttube is great, youtube premium is lame ;)

netchami,

Also check out LibreTube

fne8w2ah,

Haven’t he heard of F-Droid?

netchami,

He obviously wants people to use his crappy centralized proprietary store that collects all of your information instead of a superior FLOSS platform

mydude,

FOSS via F-Droid is gaining momentum, they don’t like it.

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

They don’t like Epic Game Store gaining momentum. They don’t care that much about F-Droid.

lud,

Yeah, no a lot of lost revenue from f droid

netchami,

It’s kinda funny to watch two garbage corporations fighting each other

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