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CassowaryTom, to memes in Email clients

I use Luke Smith’s script muttwizard.com to set up neomutt usually. Or Thunderbird. I have tried to get mutt working many times on my own and at this point I honestly dont think that I am smart enough.

i_am_hiding, to memes in Email clients

Cannot Start Microsoft Outlook. Cannot open the Outlook window. The set of folders cannot be opened. The operation has failed.

As the de-facto IT admin in a small business, this message haunts my dreams and I hate that I know it by heart. Time to make a new mail profile and configure all the accounts again. Its not like it’s the seventh time on this computer. It’s not like I’ve reinstalled Outlook three times already as per Microsoft’s “accepted solution”.

There’s a reason I don’t use Microsoft software on my hardware.

LinkOpensChest_wav,
@LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one avatar

My current employer doesn’t use Outlook, but I’ve worked for several in the past that do, and I’m pretty sure I’ve seen all of those messages at some point.

Track_Shovel,

What do they use? Is there a viable alternative?

LinkOpensChest_wav,
@LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one avatar

My current employer is fully into Google’s ecosystem, so we don’t use a dedicated email client.

Yerbouti,

One time, when I had to use outlook, someone called me asking why I wasn’t replying to emails since like 3 days. Turned out Outlook had decided I could receive emails, but when I was replying, the email would put in a special folder “to be sent” or something, because the MS outgoing server was not working. I looked like a fucking imbecile when I figured it out and tried to explain what happened.

blackbirdbiryani,

Another fucking stupid outlook thing is that you can only schedule send emails from the Web client, not the desktop app. If you try to do it on the desktop app it sits locally in your outbox and only sends if the PC holding the email is on. And if it’s off when the scheduled time passes, the email just sits in the outbox. So incredibly stupid.

cduke23,
@cduke23@beehaw.org avatar

I just use Outlook as a PWA as part of the M365 system. Works great imo. The desktop client can be a bit of a resource hog. I installed the PWA as an app and haven’t looked back.

WagnasT, to memes in Email clients

owa is so much better than outlook for me, at least for my work email. There’s actual dark mode, the servers seem to do all the heavy lifting so it never seems slow, the attachment preview is better and i can download a message as .eml instead of proprietary .msg format. Probably once a day I have to hit F5 because it starts acting weird. You can also make it a PWA. Seriously if you have to use corporate email give OWA a shot.

TimeSquirrel,
@TimeSquirrel@kbin.social avatar

the servers seem to do all the heavy lifting so it never seems slow

Never thought the day would come when an EMAIL CLIENT's performance benefited from cloud processing. How bloated is this shit?

BCsven,

We have workstation machines at work, Outlook is a dog app and OS is not great either, and search is absolutely garbage. So now I boot to linux and use the web version and it is peppy. So processing on a server is better for this junk they release.

seiryth, to memes in Email clients

Just use gmail…come on. Who’s using clients in 2023. Even outlook’s web interface is better.

TheEntity,

What about other email providers?

Sandbag,

Microsoft sadly rules most of the enterprise world. You’re not going to find many businesses at all morning foss email systems.

Froyn,

Add it to Gmail. Under settings, Accounts and Import.

TheEntity,

Yes, let's willingly give Google even more control over our data, that's a great idea.

Froyn,

As a user of an Andoid phone, they're not getting access to anything they don't have access to already.

BCsven,

GrapheneOS. GApps including playstore is sandboxed away from OS. You can set permissions for playstore since it is now am app on its own and not baked into OS. You can add more profiles and have certain apps in their own sandbox if you fear apps sharing info between them. You also get a microphone off and camera off button.

lolcatnip,

If you work for a company that uses Exchange, you don’t have much choice about using Outlook.

turbowafflz,

Let me introduce you to our savior, davmail davmail.sourceforge.net

Takios, to memes in Email clients
@Takios@feddit.de avatar

takes Notes oh no, this is even worse!

Z3R0C00l, to memes in Email clients
@Z3R0C00l@artemis.camp avatar

The first instance of AI.🤣

shath, to memes in Email clients
@shath@hexbear.net avatar

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TheCaconym,

Everybody does, comrade

colmear,

I don’t. But I have never used it, nor do I intend to do so in the future. From what I heard I would hate it too if I had used it.

shath, (edited )
@shath@hexbear.net avatar

“HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I’VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO send emails. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF neuron paths IN cute wrinkles LAYERS THAT FILL MY brain. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR outlook AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT. HATE. HATE.”

TheCaconym,

I Have No Mouth & I Must Scream, right ? still need to play it.

emptiestplace, to memes in Email clients

Missive

randomivysaur, to memes in Email clients

Vivaldi’s mail client’s pretty good, integrates into your browser much. Although no PGP support, that’s a bummer.

daniskarma, to memes in Email clients

I use thunderbird, though it really feels like it has terrible performance for me. Feels like a really heavy program for just an email client.

Still better than having ads on your client.

i_am_hiding,

Thunderbird is great for me. I’ve used it for near on twenty years, and it flies compared to Outlook, especially for searching.

LinkOpensChest_wav,
@LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one avatar

Very fast for me as well. I just launched it to check, and it took just a second or two to cold launch it.

Takes a few more seconds to refresh and get new messages. I think it’s actually faster than checking my email in browser, especially since one of my email addresses is the Yahoo! account I created in the 1990s and use for junk subscriptions.

Kidplayer_666,

The problem is. Nowadays all email clients have to be browsers cause email text is sent as html

Holzkohlen,
@Holzkohlen@feddit.de avatar

That new design update definitely made the performance worse. And it looks pretty much the same anyways. Wish I could just revert it to the old one.
What sucks the most is Dark Reader. Previously it worked fine for emails, but now it always takes a second to load. I’ll never forgive the thunderbird devs for this “update”.

TheCaconym, to memes in Email clients

I still use thunderbird. It works well.

GFGJewbacca,

I was using Thunderbird when I switched to Fedora, but then I found out about Evolution. If you use GNOME, I think it’s much better.

TheCaconym,

I use fluxbox but that doesn’t prevent using gnome apps; my main issue with them is that god-awful look they all assumed overnight a few years ago, without the title bar and the like (I think to match the Ubuntu tendency at the time / trying to emulate the fucked-up universal touch interface thing Microsoft tried to introduce at the time ?), from gedit to, indeed, evolution. I really loathe it. And thunderbird kept a classic look (firefox didn’t, which means regular css tweaking to achieve the same result).

Also thunderbird supports calendars and webdav/webcal sync with plugins (though perhaps evolution does as well now, I haven’t checked).

Voltage808s, to memes in Email clients
@Voltage808s@kerala.party avatar

Decided to give outlook a try cause of good integration on Windows. Uninstalled it the second I saw an ad on my inbox. it even shows up as regular mail and you wouldn’t know it is an ad unless you look closely at the small Ad sign at the corner.

Viking_Hippie,

Ugh, native ads are the worst! 🤬

stebo02,
@stebo02@sopuli.xyz avatar

what?? I’ve had Outlook for years and never saw any ads? Did you download some sketchy cracked version?

Voltage808s, (edited )
@Voltage808s@kerala.party avatar

The new outlook on windows 11 23H2. And there’s also a subscription model just to remove ads lmao

stebo02,
@stebo02@sopuli.xyz avatar

Windows 23H2?? I’m on windows 11, are you from the future or something? How awful is it on a scale from 9 to 10?

Voltage808s,
@Voltage808s@kerala.party avatar

Are you retard or just a child?

stebo02,
@stebo02@sopuli.xyz avatar

I might be both

helpImTrappedOnline,

Nah, you made a witty joke (pretend you did if you’ve no idea what’s going on), the other dude is just a jerk.

kratoz29,

Of course there is.

VaultBoyNewVegas,

Also the new version, which might be beta still, just sends you to a web browser to do shit in. If I wanted to open emails in a web browser in the first place then I’d do that.

mamotromico,

I mean, I’m fairly sure the new client is a web wrapper, either electron or some alternative since the actual application has parity with the web version (I use it at work). If it is redirecting you to an actual browser there’s likely something wrong with your configuration.

Since I use the enterprise version there’s no ads whatsoever. I don’t find it particularly good but it’s decent enough.

fork,

It is. Most new Microsoft apps are web apps. Though they’re ditching electron for some better web wrappers.

They’re also beginning the process of passing 365/Enterprise Outlook for this new watered down Outlook. Enterprise users are obviously pissed to see “Try the new outlook!” hovering over their regular outlook like a cloud of doom.

The outlook subreddit made a gigantic list of feature imparity. Microsoft has made some feature progress since then in preview. But it’ll suck when they actually release it I’m sure.

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

well there’s the windows mail app that exists

TheBat,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

That’s why I’ve set up Outlook on K9.

Second reason is because installing outlook adds Bing search to long press context menu.

xda-developers.com/microsoft-outlook-long-press-m…

red,

It also adds “search with bing” to Android long touch context menu, when using any chromium based browser.

kratoz29,

Huh, I used to use Outlook in a previous company, it had the old look and that, if I was still using it I’d never thought we would get ads built in there 🫠

jimmydoreisalefty, to memes in Email clients

Nice one, made me chuckle!

UraniumBlazer, (edited ) to programmerhumor in Title

Fun fact: Lithium is named after the Greek word “lithos”, meaning “stone”. It was named so as it was first found in ores. Lithium is a critical element in batteries. Therefore, it isn’t wrong to say that your magical glass slab sucks energy from magical stones to show you pictures of hot femboys.

bmlzootown,

Mine just shows me pictures of hot masculine guys. This isn’t a bug, though… It’s a feature.

fl42v, to programmerhumor in Title

Wouldn’t it be more like sand or glass instead of rock?

afathl,

Both are made from rock

Johanno,

Rock and Stone

Magnetar,

What’s the difference?

ezures,

Legally speaking, rocking is more legal than stoning

Kuvwert,

For Karl!

Madison420,

Silica dioxide can occur geologically but if it’s not from quartz it’s not a rock it’s a mineral iirc.

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