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mttaggart, to random

There are basically two irreconcilable camps in the Threads debate here.

  • Camp 1, understandably, wants nothing to do with Meta and view them as an existential threat to the Fediverse for plenty of well-precedented reasons.

  • Camp 2, also understandably, sees potential in connecting a managed platform that appeals to entities like news outlets and other services to the Fediverse, enabling us to access that information without requiring an account on a Meta-owned platform.

Camp 1 will not cede ground because they view the issue as existential.

Camp 2 will, I dunno, deal with it or move to a server where they can see what they want to see?

But given the scale of Threads already, widespread blocking of it will create a pretty noticeably weird gap in the federation graph, and make onboarding for new potential Fedi users even more confusing. That part, by itself, kinda sucks.

mttaggart,

@ShredderFeeder I do not believe size and power have a lot of impact on ActivityPub's governance, but I can't speak with authority on that.

raptor85,
@raptor85@mastodon.gamedev.place avatar

@mttaggart @ShredderFeeder as we've seen before though if you're a large enough majority of some piece of tech (web browsers, etc) you become de-facto standard even if you're not playing nice. We could very well see the situation a year or two in where threads starts adding their own extensions and the choice for other servers is comply or defed, pissing off their users who won't understand why they suddenly lost 3/4 their friends list.

mttaggart, to random

So on LinkedIn dot com (a site which continues to be the best platform for promoting content), I asked why people there still used Twitter, and if they had not tried or started using Masto/Fedi, why?

I have about as many followers there as I do here, so it's not no reach, but by no means, like, "influencer" scale. Anyway, the responses were amazing.

There have been two major themes that have emerged in the replies.

  1. Access to resources: some infosec, but actually most replies mentioned cryptocurrency??

  2. Censorship. They feel that (barf) X does not censor anyone, while other platforms will.

The second of these is deeply disturbing, not just because it is factually inaccurate, but it speaks to a mentality that sympathizes with the sorts of material that largely does get deplatformed here—in other words, hate speech.

There is a ton of selection bias happening in this sample, so take this as anecdote, not data. Still, I am alarmed to discover the number of people who have been hoodwinked by Musk, especially regarding "free speech."

jerry,
@jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

@mttaggart as the admin of medium-ish size instances, I can tell you that MANY people complain about “censorship” - some to the point of harassing me outside of the fediverse - because I won’t tolerate things they can get away with on other platforms. Including some fairly recognizable Infosec names.

mttaggart, to random

BREAKING NEWS

TechCrunch is part of the Yahoo Family of Brands
jerry,
@jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

@jarrodfrates @mttaggart it doesn’t have a language set in the meta data of the message. Any time a post is in a different language than your preferred language, you’ll see that link

jarrodfrates,
@jarrodfrates@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry @mttaggart

How does that come about? I realize now that all of Taggart's own posts are like this. Are there apps that don't report a language?

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