Facebook turns over mother and daughter’s chat history to police resulting in abortion charges

cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/1874605

A 17-year-old from Nebraska and her mother are facing criminal charges including performing an illegal abortion and concealing a dead body after police obtained the pair’s private chat history from Facebook, court documents published by Motherboard show.

silverbax,

How’s that end-to-end encryption working out?

Doesn’t matter if the company doing the e2e can get your messages.

vrighter,

but fb messenger is not e2e encrypted at all. If the company is doing e2e then they can’t read your messages

Tekkip20,
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This is true, FB messenger is as open as it will get with seeing your messages, WhatsApp is dubious too so either Signal or Session are best e2e messenger apps imo.

Legendsofanus,
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I have never heard of them, are they social media apps?

Tekkip20,
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The two apps I’ve mentioned are exclusively messenger apps. Think of Facebooks messenger but more secure with no big company servers looking at your chat and messages.

FlyingSquid,
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For all of those saying Facebook was just complying with the law- there is absolutely no reason for Facebook to have access to its users’ private information. The company I work for can’t do anything with a customer’s account unless they give us the password. We can’t see anything they have saved there. All of the private stuff they have is private and even if a court ordered us to show it to them, we literally couldn’t comply.

We’re a small company and we can do it. A company the size of Meta can certainly do it.

Skyrmir,

You can do it because you’re a small company. Get enough attention, and the FBI will force you to decrypt on demand. They’ve done it before and the supreme court backed them up. Do it over seas and expect your US traffic to get blocked, if they don’t raid your offices.

ABCDE,

WhatsApp, Signal and Telegram don’t have that issue.

ModdedPhones,

Signal yes, WhatsApp yes but not the meta data, telegram only if explicitly set to encrypted otherwise no.

ArcaneSlime,

“Why should I care about my privacy? I don’t do anything illegal.”

Hmm? Do we now acknowledge that laws and public perceptions of your actions can change with time, and that you may one day become a “criminal” for continuing behaviors that were once legal?

To preempt the “but it should just be legal” whataboutists: Of course it should just be legal, but “criminal charges” suggests that it isn’t, and privacy helps you not get caught. Furthermore, this issue contains but is not limited to abortion. It’s time that “normal” people wake the fuck up and get on board with privacy rights.

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