scrubbles , 10 months ago

Okay folks let’s start guessing what’s actually going on that OP here is trying to hide. I’ll kick us off, I’ve got

• OP modified their deck in some way that voids the warranty, broke something, tried to change it back like nothing happened, and now wants a replacement
• OP flashed a custom OS on there that’s not supported and they don’t know how to go back, and Steam support obviously doesn’t support it and it’s not a hardware issue so… tough
• OP broke their deck and is trying to come up with flimsy excuses to get a free replacement, like “Well yeah I mean it’s cracked but it wasn’t working anyway so give me a new one”

I worked in computer repair for 5 years so I’m very familiar with all the excuses people give to get me to replace something under warranty, and these lame excuses and refusal to share all of the issues just reek of something else going on

Norgur , 10 months ago

I'm all for "fiddled around in the underlying OS and effed up Pulseaudio/some demon that's constantly restarting, grinding the OS to a halt" which could be easily diagnosed with syslogs, but OP is a script kiddie and explained the situation completely wrong and doesn't know what they have done because they only followed some guide somewhete

scrubbles , 10 months ago

“I followed some guide online for a completely unrelated issue because it said it could make my games go faster and I rm -rf’d something important looking”

Deck and Linux are great because they give you the power to customize anything, but with that power comes responsibility, and I think OP is learning that. Without diagnostic logs or chat logs, I can almost guarantee if they just flashed it and started over it’d be fine but from this thread I doubt OP even knows how to do that (which is completely fine and normal, if they had asked for help on how to do that rather than be a snobby jerk)

Norgur , 10 months ago

"First step in this guide is to poste.the following code into a console

echo /dev/null > /etc/Pulseaudio.conf

Title of the guide:

You won't believe this! Steamdeck at 144fps in BF2042 by doing this simple trick!

And claims to improve performance by resetting the whole audio system to a sloppily cobbled together ALSA config.

scrubbles , 10 months ago

WARNING: This command requires sudo priviledges, only continue if you are sure you know what you’re doing! [y/N] >

Norgur , 10 months ago

Oh, sry, I didn't count entering "su" and thus doing everything as administrator for no fucking reason as a step of it's own since that is mandate for bad guides

scrubbles , 10 months ago

ah right right right in this case it makes sense. Sudo just gets in the way, stupid valve and their warnings and protections, just do everything as root! We joke because we were all like that once, and you only gotta destroy your bootloader once to learn

Voytrekk , 10 months ago

I’ve been doing Security+ training and they have you do everything as root, which goes against the very principle of least privilege.

MJBrune , 10 months ago

From everything I’ve seen, The steam deck looks unmodified, with steam OS, and undamaged. I don’t think OP is trying to hide anything but they could just have me fooled.

It looks like they might have actually gotten a faulty deck. I also try not to guess at these things. Why throw doubt on someone having a rough time? If anything I bet it comes down to communication between them and Valve not being as clear as it should be. Even if they swapped the hard drive in it, Valve will still have the steam deck under warranty, you just need to replace the original hard drive back. So I don’t see any modification they could make to void the warranty.

scrubbles , 10 months ago

This is fair, but why my eye goes to all the requests for both diagnostic logs and chat logs. Looking at OP’s history, they’re very anti-valve, to the point where I don’t even know why they bought a deck if they’re so annoyed with Valve.

I think for me, working computer repair, I laugh at people like this because they just embody the Flander’s parents meme. “I’ve tried nothing and I’m all out of ideas!” and it’s just so painful at this point. Here’s this person, having honest issues with their deck, they provide no information useful to help anyone diagnose it and then refuse to give any information that might actually be useful. To me, they’re the client who slammed the thing down on my counter and said “IT’S BROKE. FIX IT”.

That’s why I make fun here, because I couldn’t when I worked there. The fact is you do catch more flies with honey, and this person smells and looks like vinegar to me. If you go in with a negative attitude you’re going to get a negative response. When I was deciding warranty claims if something was borderline I would usually try to find an exception or way to help the person out, things go shitty, tech can be confusing, I get that. If someone came in screaming and angry at me I’m focused on getting you out as quickly as possible because you’re being a jerk to me, and so if I see it’s not covered I’m not wasting any time finding an exception for you, get the hell out.

That’s why the chat logs are so important here, how did this person approach the situation? Did they go through troubleshooting steps with the agent? Did they respond to the questions? Were they honest? Or did they go in, lie, yell at the person that the device is stupid and broken and that they demand a new one? At the end of the day you’re dealing with people on the other end, and I’m guessing this person is learning a very important lesson in kindness.

(and I know the comment is coming where someone says “Yeah buuuuut everyone should be treated the same” and I’ll pre-respond to that anyone who says that clearly has never worked food service or retail before and that no one deserves to be emotionally battered over something as trivial as a broken gaming device)

This came out longer than I expected, but hey maybe OP will read it and noodle on how they handled the situation.

MJBrune , 10 months ago

Personally, I would assume that they weren’t anti-Valve until their recent experience and struggles. From their history, I see nothing that’s anti-Valve from far back. Just recently which I can understand.

Also to note, you might be in fix-it mode when this post is not a request to fix it. They don’t want to fix it themselves. They are warning people that Valve isn’t replacing their defective devices. OP is clearly past the point of fixing it or getting there quickly.

That said, I agree, that people who are rude or frustrated at the customer interface person (tech, customer support, whoever) need to realize that the person they are talking to can only do so much, and if you calmly explain your issue, say thank you, and overall respect them, you’ll be more likely to have that person try hard for you. It will not always happen. Sometimes you talk to someone who clearly you just knows more than them on the subject (ISP reps) but you have to realize they have their job and their job isn’t to fix your problem. It’s to move you along so you keep paying. Usually fixing a problem is just a means to the end but if that end isn’t worth it then they won’t fix your problem. So I am typically nice, even if that means they write down in the customer service record that the customer’s attitude was nice, that goes a long way to the next rep that could possibly help.

Norgur , 10 months ago

"ISP rep" here (from Germany though):
It's a common fallacy that people assume they know more than my colleagues and me. People usually assume that because they know stuff about tech in general and can distinguish a RJ45 from an RJ11. Thing is, that's not the issues you are dealing with. People who tell me that they know better than me anyway tend to ignore that they have never even thought about the inner workings of a landline or mobile network. So your knowledge might not be applicable at all. How many times have I heard from tech savvy people that "this literally can be just some button you don't push because incompetence".

Why would I argue with you for an hour if that were the case, eh? And Even if that were true and the employee has no clue what you're on about, the employee will know what works and what doesn't within their IT. They may not know why, but that doesn't matter in the end, does it? It doesn't matter if that rep knows a Lan port from a serial port, only thing that matters is that they know "doing this will lead to an error"

Besides, people tend to heavily confirmation-bias the shit out of every interaction with us. How many times I had people who "worked in it and thus know a thing or two" and then went on to ask stuff on one IQ level of "earth is flat", then misinterpreted my... Hesistant reaction as incompetence and felt confirmation... A customer asked me once to open a port on our infrastructure for him because he "worked in IT and knew that we can do that" and since he could not have done anything wrong on bus end, the port HAS to be closed on our end"...`

scrubbles , 10 months ago

Why when I call into my ISP I usually just follow along with the script. I do know a thing or two about networking, but guaranteed I know nothing about your stack or how yours works. I can say with detail things like “I’m not pulling an IP address, I’m using pfsense”, but I wouldn’t dare assume to know why I’m not.

What’s funny is that dunning kruger applies. The more you know the more you realize how little you know

stappern OP , 10 months ago

Fuck me a lot of you guys needs help. Holy shit. I’m done ,this is not worth it.

jordanlund , 10 months ago

It’s really simple…

You come into a community talking shit about the company who produces the device it’s organized around.

You claim poor customer support from a company known for excellent customer support.

When asked for proof of those claims, you link to other Lemmy threads instead of your communications with Valve.

Think of it like this…

If I went into a, I dunno, Nike community and said “Nike shoes suck! Customer service won’t help me!” and when people ask for proof, my reaction is “Yeah, fuck you, I don’t have to prove anything!”

That would make me a giant troll and a huge loser.

Sooo… put up or shut up. We’re waiting!

scrubbles , 10 months ago

LOL proving my point so succinctly. Later my dude