What are you using for photo storage and organization?

Hey, I’m wondering what everyone’s solution is for self hosted “cloud” storage of photos? I’ve been running a PhotoPrism server on my Synology for a while but it’s missing some features I’d like to have. While we’ve set up auto-uploading from different phones to the web server, I haven’t found an easy way to share read-only access to the pictures or specific albums. There is an admin login, but no way (that I’ve found) to create multiple users with different permissions.

So SelfHosted lemmy, what’s your solve for photo storage, sorting, and sharing?

Showroom7561,

Synology Moments, which is their older version of their photo app. I still use the older version because it supports object recognition. I just wish it had a map view.

gadgetzombie,

Fwiw I read that object recognition is coming back with 7.2

There’s a DSM docker that enables the use of Synology Photos without having to buy a Diskstation as well if others are scrolling through this

Showroom7561,

There’s a DSM docker that enables the use of Synology Photos without having to buy a Diskstation as well if others are scrolling through this

Woah! I’ll need to check that out!

pound_heap,

Test driving NextCloud Memories. Looks nice, works inside Nextcloud (no need to set up and maintain one more service).

Main con so far - no mobile app

ErevanDB,

Nextcloud itself does have an app, though. Don’t know if you’ll still be able to use those additions or not through it.

pound_heap,

No, you can’t

ErevanDB,

Thank you for checking! I don’t have a readily accessible server yet.

rmean,

You can “install” it while it’s open in your browser - good enough for me

pound_heap,

Yeah, that’s what I’m using too

joelfromaus,
@joelfromaus@aussie.zone avatar

I hadn’t heard of Memories before. I’ve just set up an Immich server and I’m not super impressed with it, if I can shut that down and use my pre-existing Nextcloud server instead that’d be great!

What’s the development pace been like for Memories?

pound_heap,

I can’t say I’m following all release notes, but development is active. You can take a look yourself github.com/pulsejet/memories

namelivia,

I installed immich thinking I could use it to access my entire pictures collection that I had stored on my hard drives only to learn it currently does not support that.

Luckyly I saw the other day there is already a PR in the official repository trying to implement that, so I may wait for a bit to Immich to have this importer.

TheCraiggers,
@TheCraiggers@lemmy.world avatar

So, what, it only lets you upload pics remotely but not view? I do not understand.

I was thinking of trying it out but the huge banner saying not to trust it for anything important makes me hesitate every time.

namelivia,

Sorry, my explanation was not very clear. Check this thread: github.com/immich-app/immich/discussions/1006 this is what I was talking about

nukeworker10,

Followed that guide. Got redis and postgresql14 installed. When installing immich I get an error in the log that says "error:password authentication failed for user “postgres”. I’ve trirled every combination of changing password, no passwords whatever. It never works.

betternotbigger,

Have you tried logging in with a simple postgres client?

nukeworker10,

I’m not sure how I would do that. What sort of application would I use? Postgres doesn’t have a webui to log in through. So not sure how else I could test it.

betternotbigger,

Are you comfortable in command line? There’s psql or there’s www.pgadmin.org

keyez,

It doesn’t have that feature you linked but you can do a bulk upload if you wouldn’t mind them hosted then in 2 places on your storage.

immich.app/docs/features/bulk-upload

wolre,

Like many people here I’m also planning on moving to Immich. It frankly looks amazing and it has a TrueCharts version, so it should be relatively easy to deploy on TrueNAS Scale. I’m going to wait a little longer though since it’s still in relatively active development and there are quite a lot of breaking changes that I currently don’t feel like dealing with.

TheCraiggers,
@TheCraiggers@lemmy.world avatar

As somebody that already has an NFS share for their photos, is immich able to use my already existing photo location, or is it another one of those that requires an import process that copies them to its own storage?

wolre,

I guess it depends on what you’re looking for. You’ll probably be able to configure it to display your photos, but when it comes to more “advanced” features like creating albums, sharing photos with other users and the like, it’s understandably pretty difficult to find a system that would allow you to configure your own storage system.

TheCraiggers,
@TheCraiggers@lemmy.world avatar

Perhaps, but there are a few that do it, such as photoprisim and photostruct.

kowcop,

There is an experimental feature where you can have a read only share (mount point) and you can run a cli and import it into Immich

Wats0ns,

Saw recently that Shadow, the cloud PC company, has now a next cloud based storage offer: shadow.tech

I’d be interested by any feedbacks if somebody gives it a try !

CCatMan,

I’ve never heard of this, but what happens if it shuts down? How is this really self hosting vs getting an generic we hosting service and storing files there ?

Wats0ns,

Oh my bad, didn’t see this was on self hosted. Then yeah, it’s a hosting service like any other one

warmaster,

I’m planning my homelab, and from the research I’ve done, Immich is the best but not ready for production and it can’t use an already existing photo library. NextCloud memories is the next best alternative, and supports already existing libraries.

MangoPenguin,
@MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Immich can use existing libraries, either by importing (copying) existing files, or just by adding an existing folder of files in place.

warmaster,

Importing is another thing. But using an existing folder is exactly what I want. Is this feature new ?

MangoPenguin, (edited )
@MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I think it’s pretty new, in the last month or so. It’s currently something you have to run manually with the CLI to do an import, but they should eventually have it added into the web interface and run automatically.

immich.app/docs/features/bulk-upload#importing-ex…

The important thing is the –import flag which adds files without copying them.

Personally I run the CLI command inside the immich-server container, here’s the full command to make life easier since this took me a bit to figure out, make sure the directory is mounted into both the immich-server and immich-microservices containers. You can mount it as :ro if you want (I did) to make sure Immich can only read the files and not change them.

immich upload --key apikeygoeshere --server http://localhost:3001 --recursive /some/path/to/existing/photos --import

warmaster,

Amazing ! Thanks for sharing!

CAPSLOCKFTW,

Photoprism is one user only, maybe some day they wil implement multi user. You can donate to give them an incentive to work more on it. For me it is good enough.

traches,

They do support multiple users, but they gated the feature behind a subscription.

CAPSLOCKFTW,

Ah, thanks for the heads up. Last time I looked the said they might implement it in the future.

lemming741,

You can add a line to the docker compose to unlock it, let me see if I can find it

lemming741,

You used to be able to PHOTOPRISM_SPONSOR: “true” but they plugged that hole. They poor-mouth on reddit and GitHub. People that self-host are trying to get away from subscriptions, you think they’d see that

CAPSLOCKFTW,

Thanks for the effort but i might just toss them the coins.

lemming741,

For the rest of your life?

activator90,

I just use Samba for now. I don’t care much about viewing photos. also, I have an underpowered old server that overheats easily

imperator,
@imperator@sh.itjust.works avatar

I use samba and digikam

Trail,

Same but NFS over Btrfs.

Brochetudo,

Android’s Gallery application

minishoemaze,

I’m a recent Immich adopter, but one thing that seems to be missing compared to Google photos is the ability to manually backup by picking and choosing individual photos. Am I missing something or can you only do “all or nothing” with folder backups?

bjeanes,

I am also missing this. AFAICT there is no way to backup all photos yet.

StuffToWrite,

This is also one of my gripes with immich atm. Sometimes I just want to pick a specific photo that I want to upload

CaptainBlagbird,
@CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world avatar

Piwigo looks nice.

I’m trying to get it to run (in docker), but I can’t get it to connect to my MariaDB

TheInsane42,
@TheInsane42@lemmy.world avatar

Pretty simple here, directory with my phpto’s, which I renamed to show the subject, date and an id for that day. Simple script to show the images when on a website, manual viewing from disk when archived.

I pull them off the phone via a cable and adb pull command. All photo’s are read only for my wife. (And by default for all when on the website)

No need to use software when you can write some small scripts, devise an ordering system and run Linux. ;)

JStenoien,

No need to use software when you can write some small scripts, devise an ordering system and run Linux. consign yourself to not having any of the modern QoL features everyone enjoys ;)

FTFY

TheInsane42,
@TheInsane42@lemmy.world avatar

No need to use software when you can write some small scripts, devise an ordering system and run Linux. consign yourself to not having any of the modern QoL features being forced to buy/be locked into products everyone enjoys hates. ;)

Everything is a choice, for me, “one size fits somebody, hopefully, and the rest has to adapt” doesn’t work at all. I started with MSX, then Atari ST, used a PC 1 game, went via OS/2 (BBS) to Linux in '94 and stayed there after a clash with Windows 95 during an internship. My current employer gave me an iPhone to use and after running rooted Android and Cyanogenmod/Lineage since 2012 I hate it with a passion, to restricted for me.

Some will be totally happy to dump all their photo’s on photobucket, google photo’s,… it just doesn’t work for me, as for one, my photos come from DLSR, compacts, scanned analog photos and a few from the phone. I have 24y worth of photo’s on local disk (229G), I make almost no photos with the phone and when I do I usually want to put them online for own reference pretty quickly. For me, with almost no photo’s on the phone (max 10), this works like a charm. (and once I made a few scripts, it costs me less time then trying to get my photo’s back from all those apps)

I suspect we’re all a tad weary of companies offering ‘free’ storage for your data and then use it for other means or charge you when you want your data back. It’s an option that works, but requires a tad more knowledge and time to setup. That free storage feels more like ‘legal ransom ware’ then anything else. When your not paying, you’re the product being sold. (which doesn’t guarantee that when you are paying you’re not sold as well)

When you want something you either have to:

  1. find the perfect product
  2. adapt the product to make it perfect for you
  3. adapt yourself to make you perfect for the product
  4. create something yourself

The 1st is near impossible, 2nd costs time, sometimes to much, 3rd is most of the times a no-go here and that leaves 4. When you have the skills, 4 will become the option you use more and more. (Especially when you enjoy making your own solutions)

opensourcedeeznuts,

I’ve been using Photoprism. Single-user is fine for me. I see lots of people switching to immich, but haven’t checked it out myself.

Photoprism supports sharing albums via link to people who don’t have accounts. Mine is remotely accessible using Tailscale. I would like to set up proper remote access via DNS, but haven’t made that leap yet, I’m too nervous about opening ports up.

lemming741,

I’m happy with photoprism too. I paid for the photosync plugins.

I don’t love the free-mium model, but you can edit your docker config to unlock it I hear.

czardestructo,
@czardestructo@lemmy.world avatar

Not anymore it syncs up with their subscription server to enable features. If they don’t enable proper multi user support soon I’m going to bail.

bjeanes,

Photoprism supports sharing albums via link to people who don’t have accounts.

I am definitely missing this in Immich, but otherwise happy I switched over.

bjeanes,

Immich. I recently set it up after having bounced around trying a few others, such as PhotoPrism and Synology Photos. Immich is truly excellent. I’m excited to see how it develops further!

minishoemaze,

I’m a recent Immich adopter, but one thing that seems to be missing compared to Google photos is the ability to manually backup by picking and choosing individual photos. Am I missing something or can you only do “all or nothing” with folder backups?

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