jerry,
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I have bad news everyone. Tonight I am turning infosec.exchange into a private facebook group
/s if not obvious

cybeej,
@cybeej@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry fake news. “Jerry Bell is cool and all…” 🤦‍♂️

jerry,
@jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

@cybeej once I read that, I knew the rest was a lie

eljefedsecurit,
@eljefedsecurit@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry ...but i died on facebook.

jerry,
@jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

@eljefedsecurit that it terribly sad to hear. I am glad to see you’re alive and well here though.

eljefedsecurit,
@eljefedsecurit@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry well, you haven't tried to kill me off yet, so there is that.

alex_02,
@alex_02@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry except in theory any and all social media platforms can be privatized like that so that guy is a little meh.

jerry,
@jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

@alex_02 as I've said before, I think a lot of people first decide they don't like the fediverse, and then they try to find the reason

alex_02,
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@jerry or they prolly don't like how people don't tolerate their bs they've been getting away with on other platforms.

donhackman,
@donhackman@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry uh…what? lol

jerry,
@jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

@donhackman context is here: https://www.reddit.com/r/cybersecurity/comments/16nf2ev/twitterx_is_getting_weirder_where_now_for/?sort=new someone said they are not comfortable joining because it could turn into a private facebook chat overnight

bughuntercat,
@bughuntercat@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry Are you kidding? I was trying to login from Mastodon app and I can't.

jerry,
@jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

@bughuntercat I’m still working out the bugs on the mastodon to Facebook bridge 🙃

hayo,
@hayo@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry
That was always the end goal.

USBTypeSTeve,
@USBTypeSTeve@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry peak reddit moment

pauliehedron,
@pauliehedron@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry Looks like your reputation is improving, people think you're old enough to be a/on a facebook. :ablobdj:​

Supertree,
@Supertree@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry haha just saw this

PeoriaBummer,
@PeoriaBummer@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry On a platform like Reddit, users aren’t at the arbitrary whims of a single mercurial personality.

egeltje,
@egeltje@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry finally!

SecureOwl,
@SecureOwl@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry does this mean we have to start all posts with “admin delete if not allowed” like every other Facebook group?

Also, should we add a post that says “following” to any thread we want to follow despite the fact that is not necessary?

jerry,
@jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

@SecureOwl for sure.

SecureOwl,
@SecureOwl@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry admin delete if not allowed - cool thanks for confirming

0x58,
@0x58@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry That sounds like an Elon move! 🤣

XenoPhage,
@XenoPhage@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry FaceBell? Or JerryBook?

jerry,
@jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

@XenoPhage I like JerryBook. I goes well with the theme park I am planning called JerryLand

XenoPhage,
@XenoPhage@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry Oooh.. theme park. Will there be a petting zoo where we can feed the wild @lerg?

kuoirad,
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@XenoPhage @jerry @lerg Wait, I thought the rules here were explicitly NOT to feed @lerg...

jerry,
@jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

@kuoirad @XenoPhage @lerg after midnight. Everyone forgets the "after midnight" part of thar rule

XenoPhage,
@XenoPhage@infosec.exchange avatar

@jerry @kuoirad @lerg After midnight on which day? And which timezone? Lack of detail is how accidents happen..

jerry,
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@XenoPhage @kuoirad @lerg Those are implementation details. I am more of the policy guy

xabean,
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  • XenoPhage,
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    @xabean @jerry @kuoirad @lerg Ooh.. maybe we can build a perpetual lerg machine.. Some sort of contraption tweaked such that it constantly creates more lergs but culls the herd at a constant rate as well…

    lerg,
    @lerg@infosec.exchange avatar

    @XenoPhage @xabean @jerry @kuoirad I'm becoming more uncomfortable with where this is heading...

    jerry,
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    @lerg @XenoPhage @xabean @kuoirad I'm sure it'll be fine

    lerg,
    @lerg@infosec.exchange avatar

    @jerry @XenoPhage @xabean @kuoirad You said that about the World of Jerry exhibit and I’m still chasing down feral Jerry clones.

    jerry,
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    @lerg @XenoPhage @xabean @kuoirad look, we’ve learned a lot since then. I said I was sorry and served my time in jail already

    lerg,
    @lerg@infosec.exchange avatar

    @jerry @XenoPhage @xabean @kuoirad once again, living with your wife and sons in your house during the pandemic lockdown was NOT jail.

    jerry,
    @jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

    @lerg @XenoPhage @xabean @kuoirad 🏆 I can’t top that

    malanalysis,
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  • jerry,
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    @malanalysis @XenoPhage I know who is on the marketing team

    Muddobbers,
    @Muddobbers@infosec.exchange avatar

    @jerry

    Knew it! Don't even know how in the world that would even happen and work in the first place, but.. called it. Unless.. you're secretly Zuckerberg

    tinker,
    @tinker@infosec.exchange avatar

    @jerry - Sooo... even if they're correct. That's one of the main points of the fediverse.

    Like... I do trust you, main reason I'm here.

    But I don't need to.

    You could absolutely defederate and lock down infosec.exchange annnnnd.... we'd just migrate to a different server.

    Yay.

    JessTheUnstill,
    @JessTheUnstill@infosec.exchange avatar

    @tinker @jerry Though from what I understand, if the instance defederated with everyone else suddenly, migration wouldn't be automatic or easy. It requires your "from" server to host your redirect pointers for a while for all the rest of the fediverse to learn where to point people to. So you'd end up rebuilding your social graph from scratch again.

    jerry,
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    @JessTheUnstill @tinker that is true. And that has been some of the challenge with recent instance blocks

    JessTheUnstill,
    @JessTheUnstill@infosec.exchange avatar

    @jerry @tinker I've been beating the drum that the fediverse needs a way to decouple a user's identity from their instance for several months now. Something like an mx record or a webfinger, such that they can update their "home instance" pointer to a new instance if/when they need to, and all of their followers could pick up the redirect even in the case of adversarial home instance admin behavior. Obviously you'd still lose your post history etc., but you wouldn't lose your social graph so long as your webfinger stayed around.

    JessTheUnstill,
    @JessTheUnstill@infosec.exchange avatar

    @jerry @tinker
    @hrefna did some brainstorming with me last night of various strategies. Frustratingly, I've just not had any brain power to code in my free time in recent months ...
    https://hachyderm.io/@hrefna/111095937917707836

    jerry,
    @jerry@infosec.exchange avatar

    @JessTheUnstill @tinker @hrefna I like the idea, though I am not sure the fediverse as it is would be compatible - still probably worth doing. Also note that when this has been floated before, it's largely been met with people putting their fingers in their ears and screaming "you're trying to centralize the fediverse!!!" which possibly could be resolved, particularly if people had the chance to stay on a current style instance.

    JessTheUnstill,
    @JessTheUnstill@infosec.exchange avatar

    I mean, for any of these ideas, it's not like the identity service has to be centralized or monolithic - just decoupled. Presumably identity services would be under less pressure to moderate or ban users since they're merely hosting a pointer, not having any particular control over anyone's content.

    @jerry @tinker @hrefna

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