vrek,

One thing I always wondered is what counts as “management”?

For example I’m in manufacturing (not looking to start a union, my job treats me fairly well but I support them) and we have “team leads” who technically “manage” people but are very low on the totem pole.

We have supervisors who are higher, about the same as engineers, who “manage” the leads.

The we have directors and managers who basically run their whole group.

The it goes up to vps and divisional vps and eventually CEO and board of directors.

Where does “management” start? Really below vps/dvps everyone is just following orders. They may be following orders but with much more lead way. I can see a case that anyone who “manages” another person, even at a team lead level" could be counted as management and that just doesn’t seem fair.

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