Tavarin,
@Tavarin@lemmy.world avatar

I have a smaller keyboard that doesn’t have dedicated arrow keys, or any of the home, page up, etc. They’re all on the numpad, so numlock for me is very useful.

RHOPKINS13,

There's an old game I grew up with called Castle of the Winds. You could also move using some other keys or the mouse, but for me my favorite way by far was using the numpad with numlock turned off.

I also used to use the numpad while playing Half-Life, as the person who introduced me to that game swore by remapping all the keys to the numpad.

jrs100000,
@jrs100000@lemmy.world avatar

Old games are pretty much the only use Ive ever seen. The keypad can be used as arrow keys, but with diagonal options and the ability to easily switch over to numbers. Nethack, for instance, is extra challenging without a proper numberpad.

Nemo,

vi keys for life

Hillock,

It's a relic of the past. Old keyboards didn't have dedicated arrow keys and since many programs were only controlled by arrow keys rather than a mouse, having a num lock key was a good solution to the problem. But if you are still stuck in an environment where you have to navigate a lot with arrow keys, the num lock still comes in handy. Having Pg Up and Down and the Home/End keys nearby is super handy in this situation.

It's still useful for some old video games, especially for multiplayer where both play at the same time.

PlutoniumAcid,
@PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world avatar

I have literally removed the NumLock keycap from all of my keyboards to make sure I don’t accidentally turn it off. Never missed it.

I have also removed the F1 keycap. Never use it.

DrQuint,

Scroll Lock is the one that comes to mind as a safe removal.

However, for me, the real useless AND inconvenient piece of shit I wish I could rebind as I want that space for something better is Caps Lock. Unfortunately, it’s not that easy to do.

PlutoniumAcid,
@PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world avatar

Use autohotkey! I have a very simple solution for this, where the caps lock key is mapped either as a backspace key, or it minimizes the current window.

commandar,

Swap caps lock and left control. It's the first thing I do on most of my computers, especially notebooks.

The newer versions of Windows Powertoys from Microsoft makes it easy on Windows.

Been easy on Mac and most Linux distros for years.

WigglyTortoise,

You should look into Kanata. It lets you remap the whole keyboard, same idea as QMK, except it’s running on your computer instead of the keyboard itself.

It can be a bit tricky to set up if you’re not used to that sort of thing, but I managed to figure it out so if you have any questions feel free to ask.

gunnervi,
@gunnervi@kbin.social avatar

I've set my computer so that holding caps lock lets me type in Greek

ThisIsNecessary,

Lol I also remove the Num Lock key! I find myself accidentally pressing it too much and I just never want to use that function anyway.

justanotherjo,

no use whatsoever. this is an artifact from the days when the arrows, etc. did not exist as separate keys.

wjrii, (edited )
@wjrii@kbin.social avatar

For a full size, 104-key PC keyboard, everything that is mapped to the numpad is also somewhere else, and the keys are spaced out enough that you'd almost never need to turn off the numpad, so the key is just there for oddball legacy apps that do weird stuff. It was more important before IBM released the fully "modern" 101-key Model M.

For laptop keyboards and other reduced format keyboards that still include all or part of a numpad, it can still be useful. I actually use autohotkeys instead, but one of my budget mechanical keyboards only has the arrow nav keys and the rest are accessed by turning off NumLock.

jem0,

Yes, there are arrows on the numeric keyboard which can be used for various reasons, also home and end buttons.

Casey_Masterpiece,

How am I going to make an auto clicker then? With 5 and + held at the same time it keeps clicking really fast.

tgxn,
@tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net avatar

Mouse keys iirc

key,
@key@lemmy.keychat.org avatar

It’s useful if you enable Mouse Keys mode. Which is useful if you find yourself without a working mouse for one reason or another.

ryo,

Never used it, really inconvenient. Stays off here and now you gave me an idea to rebind to something useful.

daleus,

think of it more like a switch that makes that part of your keyboard multi-use.

You can buy keyboards that cut off that entire section if you don’t use it.

Andi,
@Andi@feddit.uk avatar

An easy indicator to see if a computer is on / wake it up / see if the keyboard is connected / see if a PC has crashed.

Untitled_Pribor,
@Untitled_Pribor@kbin.social avatar

Yes. On my keyboard there's no separate "end" key, it's part of 3 on the numpad, that key is very useful when using the terminal, because you don't need to wait for 5 years for the cursor to make it to the end of your command.

WalrusDragonOnABike,

Reassign it to the NumLock key.

Untitled_Pribor,
@Untitled_Pribor@kbin.social avatar

I'm too lazy to figure out how to do that

WalrusDragonOnABike,

If you have keyboard software, you might be able to use that. I use autohotkey for reassigning keys. The script would be:

SetNumLockState, AlwaysOn
NumLock::End

For windows,
Just put it in a txt file after installing AHK and use .ahk at the end of the file name. There's a way to make it the default script, but I think but I use just task scheduler to make it start on boot/login.

Hupf,
@Hupf@feddit.de avatar

Chaotic neutral

emzzy,

I only find it useful on laptop keyboards. I like the numpad for entering numbers, and I also like having dedicated keys for stuff like Home, End, and Insert when browsing or editing. It saves space when you can double the numpad for both.

r00ty,
@r00ty@kbin.life avatar

I think the numlock key is a hangover from the IBM XT computers (maybe even before that). Those keyboards didn't have the cursor keys and other key block. So, the numlock key was quite important.

I know, because I got my first PC during the PC AT days right before they moved toward ATX. That was a full size keyboard.

I am surprised it has stuck around so long. I understand in the transition from XT to AT that perhaps computer operators got used to using the numpad for navigation and muscle memory would be ruined. But, you know it's like 40 years on now. There isn't really a modern day reason to keep it.

But, happy to be proven wrong.

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