You can make Firefox crazy fast if you fiddle with the settings and with the ublock origin enough. There's no reason to be using Chromium unless you're daily driving a website that doesn't support the Gecko engine
I just wish Mozilla would put more work into Firefox. Don’t get me wrong, it is fantastic and it does a lot really well, but Mozilla are frolicking off with their next investment that very few people have interest in, all while the Firefox community are suffering from some slower development.
This isn’t meant to be a Firefox rant, I love Firefox.
Firefox is indeed amazing but since chrome is so widespread a lot of sites primarily focus on supporting that - and thus i cant always use firefox. its a bit annoying
I don’t know if it’s just ethical or their unwillingness to improve but they have left a lot of issues open for several years.
Issues like -
Auto dark mode for web pages - they removed it when Chrome for Android dropped it, but never picked it back up. All other browsers have it now
Geolocation on Mac. Their argument is weird for this and the issue is still there for over 5 years
A lot of changes nobody asked, something like address bar auto complete, which they forcefully changed to top sites without even giving options
Slowdown because of bloat - while a lot cliam that it isn’t the case, Vivaldi has brought my M1 Mac to its knees, even with brand new instace. Again only one to do so
I’ve switched to Firefox 2 years ago and I never missed Chrome since. Out of curiosity I’ve tried Opera GX a week ago only to find out that it is basically another chromium skin. Honestly I’m quite worried by the lacking of alternatives. 🦊 Be Strong Foxy✊️
Parts of it are. Vivaldi wants to retain its brand and doesn’t want people making forks and potentially tarnishing its reputation. And given how unpopular it is, they can’t really afford that to happen. I personally have no issues with Vivaldi wanting to keep things that way and I don’t mind it not being completely FOSS. Given how absolutely amazing the browser is and how customizable and feature-packed it is, it’s absolutely irresistible for me not to use it.
Here's a blog post from Vivaldi about it not being completely FOSS and their reasoning
They've also got a great privacy policy so I'm not concerned with privacy either.
Fun fact: Vivaldi is the go to browser for car makers such as Lamborghini, Mercedes, Audi and other car manufacturers https://vivaldi.com/android/automotive/
I know about why they don’t want to make it fully open source and I love how feature packed it is but I don’t want to use non-free software as my web browser.
@pingu, I've been using it for 7 years and it has never appeared overloaded. There are some of the functions that I do not use and because of that I have hidden, however there are many others that come in very handy. But this is handled differently for each user, depending on how they use the browser. You can use extensions from the Chrome Store, but most are redundant in Vivaldi and not needed. You can give it the simple look of an old IE or of an Eurofighter panel and everything in between.
Oh ok, because when I tried it I was a bit overwhelmed about all the features that it has. And with every feature enabled at the beginning, the browser was a bit lagging.
Qutebrowser is chromium-based, and barely anyone uses icecat since the modern web heavily relies on JS, iceraven is a Firefox for Android fork, which could maybe have like 50 users and librewolf is unusable for daily usage because of RFP (resist fingerprinting worsens a lot of sites that rely on canvas). (This is just my opinion)
Yeah, it's a lot better if you disable RFP, but it still wouldn't save my passwords and enabling Firefox Sync isn't accessible. Again, it's just my opinion.
Very true !! For me Enpass On Linux pop-os and on my Pixel running graphene-os Perfect Enpass basically big database with more then just passwords Contacts, notes, files …😊
More people should be aware of Nyxt as I believe it's one of the greatest efforts towards a customizable browser out there. It aims at being renderer-agnostic, but it currently only supports Webkit and there are plans to support Blink via Electron. I built someextensions for it in Common Lisp and I can say the ecosystem is much more fun and open than standard browsers.
Do you know of any vi extensions or configs I can look at for Nyxt. The OOB experience isn’t great, but I see the potential. EDIT: Also tree tabs if possible
vi support is built into the browser, you only need to enable vi-mode in your default-modes. There is no concept of tree tabs, you manipulate tabs as "buffers" that you can switch to via fuzzy search, which IMO is far more efficient. You can take a look at one of the core maintainers' config. Alternatively, I've recently added a Guix home service and feature into rde for those that want a more batteries-included config, which you can check how I use in my dotfiles
Thanks. I’m not so much interested in tree tabs for switching around, but to bulk close tabs based on origin. Basically to bulk delete tabs based on how they were created. But it seems flexible enough.
What's with all these comments saying Firefox is slow!? I've never noticed FF slowing down? I also can't find anything online particularly damning (they all are pretty close in scores. No massive performance numbers for one or the other). I thought this was just a common misconception. Can anyone explain?
Rules for thee and not for me kind of stance when it comes to who is collecting all the sweet data from its users, it wont be possible to block every tracker and ad from Google in the future because every add-on will have a limit of how many domains they are trying to block.
I mean what could possibly go wrong if the biggest data collector and ad provider has a monopoly on web browser?
Why is it bad to use chromium base browsers? If the market is essentially only Chromium and Safari, Firefox compatibility will be even less important and broken sites will only lead to a bigger monopoly because users will switch.
I started using Startpage it takes Google searches and gives it to the user anonymously. The results are quite good because it's essential Google results.
@pingu@BrokenToshy, Startpage is my secondary search engine, mainly for images, the other secondary most used is Mojeek, but my main and first search is Andisearch (AI) with unique features and one of the most private search engine out there
Just tried it a bit, and it seems good, the summary on the left and the website on the right is a great UI (my preferences). I will test/try it for daily use and see if it can handle my often complicated problems…
@pingu, normally it solves it very well, in all the time that I use it it has given me good and reliable answers. On very few occasions it failed with any expression, but then it offers a direct search on the net.
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