Why doesn't blocking work?

I had to block a few users yesterday. Today, I noticed about ten notifications from users I've blocked—they replied to me, continued to make up lies about my heritage, and I continued to see their comments in my notifications.

It seems that the only effect of my blocking them is that I can no longer see their comments in context—although I am still notified of their harassment. This is quite the opposite effect from the one I was going for—I mean, I'm happy to spend less time engaging with them, but the block feature seems to be guaranteeing these bigots the "last word" and preventing me from even reporting them. They can then follow me anywhere on kbin and continue to harass me, the block function is only stopping me from doing anything about it.

At least one of these users is on the same instance as I am, kbin.social.

Why doesn't blocking work?

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Arotrios,
@Arotrios@kbin.social avatar

If someone continues to harass you after you've blocked them, it's because they're lonely and want your attention. I've found that offering comforting and condescending words while reverse spamming them with Eleanor Rigby seems to end the harassment quickly... especially when they realize that they can't block you properly either.

cacheson,
@cacheson@kbin.social avatar

Notifications from blocked users is a bug. There isn't really anything that can be done about the "last word" thing, though. On reddit-style platforms, the expectation is that blocking a user just hides their posts and comments. If the blocking user's activity was hidden from the blocked user, then it would be possible to preemptively block someone before defaming them in order to stop them from reporting it.

PugJesus,
@PugJesus@kbin.social avatar

On Reddit, blocked users can see but can't respond to posters that have blocked them.

Pamasich,
@Pamasich@kbin.social avatar

It wasn't like that until a few years ago, and people disliked the change.

danhakimi,
@danhakimi@kbin.social avatar

To clarify, a few years ago, the blocked user could not see the message either. The logic behind the change was, "you can just log out and see it anyway, so what's the difference?" Most people spend most of their time logged in. The difference is significant.

danhakimi,
@danhakimi@kbin.social avatar

I'm not aware of any other platform where a blocked user can reply to a blocking user, but it certainly isn't possible on Reddit.

cacheson,
@cacheson@kbin.social avatar

I may be mistaken on the exact details of how it works on reddit, but allowing non-moderator users to prevent others from replying doesn't sound like a good idea. For comments, preventing a blocked user from replying directly in a child comment means they'll just reply in a sibling comment instead. They still get the last word, so the only thing accomplished is to mess up the threading a little bit.

For posts, preventing blocked users from replying gives the poster pseudo-moderator powers over replies. They can block anyone criticizing or disagreeing with them, giving them significant narrative control. Not exactly desirable.

Blocking should only be for filtering what the blocking user sees. It cannot be a substitute for proper moderation.

Pamasich,
@Pamasich@kbin.social avatar

It used to be possible on Reddit, and people didn't like the change to how it is now. Because of how it can be (and is being) abused.

danhakimi,
@danhakimi@kbin.social avatar

A blocked user could never respond to a blocking user on Reddit, to my knowledge. I believe you're confused.

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