Is ascended celestial gear a waste?

Basically the title.

Long time player who mostly does casual open world content. Celestial gear can be pretty fun for open world content, and I like the of having only one set of armour per character. Though I believe the fact that celestial armour has toughness somewhat negates its usefulness in endgame content?

This is mostly on the context of a celestial firebrand.

Thanks for any insight!

hydrospanner,

I guess bigger picture, even if you later decide that it’s not what you want, you can easily just convert it to another stat or transfer it to another alt (provided they wear the same armor class, of course) so there’s little downside in the long term.

lulztard,

In terms of absolute efficiency and pure, utter meta: yes it’s a waste and you should feel bad for even considering it.

In literally every other term ever, Celestial fine to good, in some niche cases even great. Especially in open world and more low-tier endgame content. Naturally, tryhards will bitch at you.

dojan,
@dojan@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think you’d find a spot in optimised meta groups, since celestial is kind of a “Jack of all Trades” statline.

That said, I crafted ascended celestial for my Guardian and it has been hella fun. I’m not sad I put the time into making it.

necropola, (edited )
@necropola@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

It depends on the profession/build how much you can benefit from Celestial Gear. Obviously Hybrid builds benefit the most. In Open World and Story Misssion builds suited for celestial gear provide a lot quality of life. Another area where celestial gear/builds shine(s) is WvW (roaming).

And even in so-called endgame content, e. g. Raids, (CM) Strike Missions and (CM) Tier 4 Fractals, I would suggest to find other people to play with, if your group complains about you running a celestial build. Assuming of course that your build is suited for celestial gear and you know what your are doing.

Always keep in mind that your are doing no damage, no healing and do not provide boons while you are dead.

Ravi,

I’d say it is pretty useful, when you are playing casually. Easy for beginners, because of the survivability and fits almost every build. The downside is obviously that its far from optimal for any spec. You are not a good healer, have not that much boon umtime and your power/condi dps are not good.

Personally I would not build it, but wouldn’t change stats if I get a piece for free.

brogrum,
@brogrum@lemmy.wtf avatar

… but you wouldn’t equip an Ascended Celestial piece on a pure power build, because it would be worse than an Exotic piece with Berserker, Assassins or Marauder stats. Unless you are very desperate for Agony Resistance, but in that case you should probaly change stats.

Ravi,

Not for a berserker build, but for any of that rare stat combinations it works just fine. Not optimal, but also not bad either.

necropola,
@necropola@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

That’s kinda the point I was trying to make earlier. It very much depends on the build how much you benefit or loose from celestial stats.

JJH,

For Open World and WvW Cele gear is really good. For organized group content it depends on the role you try to fill:

  1. Healing is possible in all gamemodes but a bit scuffed for Quickness application. In addition to that you will likely be the Tank (highest toughness), which can be overwhelming.
  2. DPS no problem in fractals and easy strikes but you will do considerable less dps than others, dont do it for Raids.
  3. Boon-DPS dont do it.
etchinghillside,

Usually among Beserkers as my first set on a new character. But it depends what kind of content you want to play. Do you need to hit DPS marks as a quickbrand? Will you have more toughness then the tank? Some things to keep in mind.

nullthegrey,

@asal I can speak from my experience. I made Celestial Ascended gear for my Alac mechanist. It was really just a project for me, was looking for something to do in game. I don't really have much interest in Fractals, but now I'd be ready. I think if your intent behind making cele ascended gear would be to get into fractals, know that cele will likely only get you so far. Higher end groups look for specific stats for the most part.

asal,

Great insight. Thank you.

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