Apex Legends is, yet again, falsely banning linux players

cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/3398415

This was a big issue ~5 months ago, and they ended up unbanning all of the linux players (I know reddit sucks, I’m sorry, but it’s currently the best source of info I could find): reddit.com/…/ea_is_falsely_massbanning_steam_deck…

However, three reports from this morning (including myself) just rolled in, as well as a few others from the past month (check recent replies): answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/…/12338557

One of the banned players from this morning was also banned (then unbanned) when this was an issue 4-5 months ago.

More recent reddit posts about it: reddit.com/…/linux_users_getting_falsely_banned_a…reddit.com/…/apex_legends_linux_users_getting_fal…

Valve’s github issues: github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/4350#issue…

sp6,

Gaming on Linux now has an article about this: gamingonlinux.com/…/linux-players-getting-banned-…

We’re up to 12 linux users banned in the past ~day

doublejay1999,
@doublejay1999@lemmy.world avatar

You’ve posted this on 3 subs now

sp6,

*Cross-posted. Yes, I think it is relevant to all of those communities and deserves attention

Chozo,

You're allowed to do that.

Sethayy,

You have 12 down votes now

doublejay1999,
@doublejay1999@lemmy.world avatar

oh no

Sethayy,

42 now

comic_zalgo_sans, (edited )

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  • sp6,

    Apex is listed as Steam Deck Verified. Since Steam Deck and desktop linux use the same compatibility tool, Proton, that means both should be supported.

    Additionally, the last time this happened, Apex unbanned all of the desktop linux users, which is at least a soft-confirmation that it’s supported.

    TigrisMorte, (edited )

    Not remotely how it works.

    edit: as per requested; There is far more to any system than just the OS or a single piece of software. Simply because both systems use the same core, the OS isn't a copy and paste. Additionally, the varied components result in very different results. tldr; Linux != steam OS despite being built on the same core.

    utopianrevolt,

    I hope you understand that you’re getting downvoted because your reply is very low-effort that refuses to go into any detail. Therefore, it comes across as malicious, arrogant, and dismissive.

    please explain

    TigrisMorte,

    Why use many words, when few shall do?

    ugo, (edited )

    “Unsupported” (or “your mileage may vary” as you put it) means it lacks support. As in, if you try to contact support they are totally in their right to answer “sorry, this platform is unsupported, you’re on your own” if something doesn’t work or is buggy.

    “Unsupported” does not mean that it’s a bannable offense.

    Given that, let me ask you: why do you think trying to run software on an unsupported platform without malicious intent should be banned, as you seem to imply?

    comic_zalgo_sans, (edited )

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  • Dark_Arc,
    @Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

    You’re pretty misinformed here. EA (or rather the internal studio, Respawn) had to include the EasyAnticheat .so file (which is specifically designed to allow EasyAnticheat to function under Linux – .so files are the Linux equivalent of Windows .dlls) in their Apex Legends builds to begin with. Otherwise, EAC will not run on Linux, period. This developer opted-in to EasyAnticheat running, and has continued to opt-in to this.

    This isn’t Valve “tacking on” support, the presence of that file is an explicit “we’re permitting this to work” (even if they don’t “officially” consider it supported).

    tabular,
    @tabular@lemmy.world avatar

    If they want money from from Linux users then they need to do better. If they don’t then offer out refunds.

    Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever,

    They don’t want money from linux users. They never wanted money from linux users (to my knowledge).

    If you buy a bunch of apple peripherals and then switch to linux, you don’t get a refund from the apple store.

    tabular,
    @tabular@lemmy.world avatar

    I think it’s fair to assume shareholders want money from anyone who will give it to them.

    Local laws determines if you can get a refund so I can only argue I think you should get a refund if a product stops working due to the manufacture.

    Personally I’d rather not buy from them in the first place but there is likely a benefit to showing Linux users will buy it if you treat them right.

    Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever,

    I think it’s fair to assume shareholders want money from anyone who will give it to them.

    By that logic, McDonald’s is accountable for not serving lobster. I mean, I want lobster and I might be dumb enough to give McDonald’s money for it.

    tabular,
    @tabular@lemmy.world avatar

    A closer analogy might be selling uncooked food that is safe for people with a peanut allergy and then one day adding peanuts as an ingredient after they’ve paid for a shipment. [It should go without saying avoiding a peanut allergy reaction is more important than preventing a company locking you out of entertainment software you paid for]

    It’s my hope that corporations will learn it’s a dumb choice to needlessly cut off their Linux users but a better choice would be to not play video games where a company can arbitrarily lock you out in the first place. I hope someone is working on a libre version of Apex.

    frippa,
    @frippa@lemmy.ml avatar

    So if I try to run the game on hardware that doesn’t meet the requirements and I get it to run (like a pentium IV) I should be banned?

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