Mental Outlaw | Lemmy - The FOSS & Federated Reddit Alternative

In this video I show off some different Lemmy instances and discuss why the lemmyverse and even some individual Lemmy instances can become a better alternative to Reddit.

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I dunno how the community collectively feels about Mental Outlaw in sum, but there's content of his that has its way of piquing my interests. He just put up a video showcasing Lemmy, some instances, and the mechanics/interactions between them. Probably old news for many of us, but I think it's always pretty cool to see Lemmy get its mention.

Beehaw specifically got its mention through the video and he briefly touches on Beehaw's defederation from sh.itjust.works. I'm pretty confident he disagrees with the decision, but his opinion and description of things struck me as balanced and respectable enough. I'd wager that a more precise description of the intrigue would likely take as much time as the video itself.

Any thoughts on Mental Outlaw's coverage of either Lemmy in sum or Beehaw? Anyone else seen creators they keep their eyes on give mention of Lemmy?

wulfinna,

Fuck this guy tbh. I look forward to the day men of his ilk succumb to their own bullshit and are entirely left behind and forgotten by society.

Eigengrau,
@Eigengrau@kbin.social avatar

I remember this guy said slurs . Noped the fuck outta there

Schooner,

Cis is not a slur lol

coolin,

I can't think of a time he's said any slur, but there is a particular video I would be interested to see it

editediting,

I feel uneasy that he’s promoting Lemmy given his iffy politics. Lemmy, Kbin, etc… will die like Gab if they get flooded with 4channers and Redpillers.

flip0xfff,

In my opinion, the fediverse is quite resilient. Communities can be moderated, instances can be unfederated.

cnnrduncan,

There are already a handful of relatively old right-wing lemmy instances, you're just unlikely to see content from them without specifically seeking them out as most other instances do not federate with them.

NotAPenguin,

I've only seen a few of their videos but didn't pick up any right wing rhetoric or anything, what's their politics and how does it come out?

coolin,

Basically he is pro-privacy, somewhere in the libertarian space, supports usage of monero, recommends you move to a rural area, etc.

suslord,
@suslord@kbin.social avatar

What kind of iffy politics? Only thing of what I see coming from his channel that could be considered political is complaining about government surveillance which is problematic for many regardless of whether they're right or left. Other than that it's not like politics are a talking point on his channel.

alyaza,
@alyaza@beehaw.org avatar

What kind of iffy politics?

i can't pretend i know who this guy is but: i'm pretty sure he has iffy politics. i scrolled through the comments on this video the other day (because we're mentioned in it, and just to get a sense of who watches his videos) and i immediately came away with the sense that his community is full of right-wing freaks who think censorship is when you moderate and who are mad that trans people exist. i think counted at least three blatantly transphobic comments in a brief scroll, and the general vibe of that comment section was like a youtube facsimile of 4chan. as a content creator, you have the agency to make dipshits like that unwelcome--so the fact that he isn't is uh, telling, imo.

karbotect,

He does attract a certain crowd on his channel. I think he did express his support on human rights issues like LGBT and racism on certain occasions. He seems kind of libertarian tho. Nevertheless he keeps his political opinions mostly to himself. The FOSS and privacy movements just attract weird people across the spectrum.

His videos are pretty watchable regardless of personal political opinions imo.

nfld0001,
@nfld0001@beehaw.org avatar

There was another comment somewhere in this thread that did a pretty good job at summarizing where I think it comes from. From what I can tell of the videos I hunt and peck from him, his general outlook can be summed up to be libertarian in the traditional sense of the term. On one end of that, he consistently criticizes the reach and practices of US intelligence agencies, which is something I’d think a lot of the country’s politically left would agree with. On the other end, he’s a passionate advocate for firearms, something more in line with the country’s right leaning libertarians. The consistent trend seems to be a view that government ought to have less authority. I don’t think that’s inherently a politically right or left attitude, but in the US at least, I think that it’s more embraced by the country’s right rather than the left, so that’s the kind of audience that builds up a sizable chunk of his own.

There’s also the aesthetic. I think it’s reasonable to say that his demeanor styling appeals to that kind of bend, so that’s another pull for people who get into that kind of culture. I wouldn’t have any examples that come to mind, so take it as hearsay, but I’d wager it would be in theme of him to throw in the likes of a 4chan derived slur if it were relevant to the content. Which is a shame, because I like the kind of internet grit that comes with the vibe, I hate the discrimination it tends to attract and even have baked in it if you’re not careful.

It’s all to say I can see him leaning libertarian. Not necessarily in the politically right sense, but in the general “let people govern themselves” sense. I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t mean to have an intolerant fan base, but his political stances end up letting him have that intolerant fan base. Goes back to that paradox of tolerance, I suppose. I keep my distance from his comments.

Still, the man and the content itself seems textbook and divisive, at least around here. I’ll keep future material of his to myself and continue having him in the kinda arms-length distance I have. He has occasional takes that strike me as informative and balanced, but he also has occasional takes that I plainly don’t care for. Seems like a creator to look at critically and not to take their word as gospel, which come to mention it, is likely a kinda perspective to have of creators by default.

radicalpikachu,

Just because they advocate firearms doesn’t make them right libertarian. For a lot of leftists like me arming the proletariat is essential.

I don’t particularly like Mental Outlaw because he’s one of those edgy people who likes to use the word “normie” a lot, but at least he’s not like Distrotube or god forbid Luke Smith.

karbotect,

Distrotube is fairly normal imo. Tbh tho I listen to DT’s vids primarily as sleeping aid

nerdyguy1990,

Isn't he right-wing, LiBeRtArIaN? I could be thinking of someone else, though. Not a fan of his.

zekiz,

I think you might be thinking about Luke Smith

ShittyKopper,

There are so many Linuxy YouTube Guys With Terrible Politics™ that it’s really not that hard to confuse them with each other.

Mummelpuffin,
@Mummelpuffin@beehaw.org avatar

What deeply frustrates me about it is that a lot of people who would otherwise be big advocates for FOSS software get completely turned off by creeps like this being absolutely everywhere.

Schooner,

Then they never believed in it to begin with. Freedom comes with a cost.

It’s not surprising that people who have unacceptable views seek out the freest medium to express them. That’s always been the case.

You need the crazies to be crazy for alternate media to exist.

ouigol,

I don’t really know what I think of him. I have never heard him say anything bad but he feels like an alternate Luke Smith which gives me bad vibes.

His content is pretty good, though. I have discovered some neat stuff through him which I am grateful for

greeny9000,

Same for me. I really don't like his praising of crypto.

zekiz,

He's actually only praising Monero

greeny9000,

Yep. But 'don't invest in crypto, except for this crypto currency i own' is what a lot of crypto folks say. So I'm always cautious when hearing this.

mpldr,
@mpldr@beehaw.org avatar

If you see crypto as an investment, you shouldn't use crypto, imho.

nfld0001,
@nfld0001@beehaw.org avatar

I really miss that brief moment around the start when it seemed thought of as an alternate currency with its own benefits and drawbacks rather than an outright investment. I’d like to think that with crypto gradually exiting the light as popular grifting vehicle of the time, we’ll gradually return to that more grounded outlook of it.

Hopefully at least, but admittedly I’m not holding my breath 🫠.

Mubelotix,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

It’s actually not possible to say anything else. If you think something is great of course you are going to buy it

Schooner,

What wrong with it?

Jamie,
@Jamie@jamie.moe avatar

I made my own thread on the topic over at !fediverse and it seems like a mix of “oh that’s cool” and “some of the stuff he says is kinda ehhh”

I’d say that sums up my opinion pretty well, too.

zekiz,

As far as I noticed he never actually said something offensive

wallmenis,
@wallmenis@kbin.social avatar

He did say something antisemitic in one video, then he took it down. Let me find it real quick.
Should be this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63hor
It is disabled though....

Please correct me if you find it!

Quik2007,

Interesting, what was the topic of the video? And what did he say?

RandoCalrandian,
@RandoCalrandian@kbin.social avatar

Why is that important, he’s been accused of bigotry! Grab your pitchfork and don’t ask questions

wallmenis,
@wallmenis@kbin.social avatar

I don't quite remember and that reminds me the need to clarify: DO NOT BASE YOUR OPINION ON WHAT I SAID, because I may be wrong.

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