uebquauntbez,

I’m pretty sure, Victor Orban was there only to arrest Vladimir Putin in the name of the free world. /s

tal,
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

As things stand, the EU doesn’t have a unified foreign policy.

I think that doing so would provide some benefits. The US explicitly prohibits state governments, via the Logan Act, from undercutting the federal government in areas where the federal government is negotiating with foreign powers.

I think that there are good arguments that having a unified foreign policy is something that one would want to do prior to unifying a military in the EU.

But it is true that, as things stand, the EU doesn’t have a unified foreign policy. And one aspect of that is that each individual member state has the right to negotiate independently with foreign powers. The EU, in its present form, doesn’t have the right to require Orban to not talk to Putin. And getting to an environment where it has that legitimate authority requires EU member states to sign off on such a change, which they have not done.

I’ll also add that there are definitely people out there who disagree with me. I think that the EU should politically-integrate further, but there are definitely people who have a different vision, want the EU to stay a looser-knit organization. From their standpoint, it would be undesirable for Brussels to ever have the ability to control member state foreign relations.

HenriVolney,

Couldn’t put it better than you did. It’s a long shot before EU members agree on a unified foreign policy. I guess the 6 founders should be leading that effort. In this particular case, though, Orban decides unilaterally to align himself with a regime which is actively fighting EU core values, thus endangering the very existence of the Union. I think there should be a mechanism, akin to the one used when a government undermines the rule of law internally, to make it painful when a ruler acts like Orban on foreign policy matters.

dust_accelerator,

Hungarian leadership seems a little touchy lately. Could it have to do with recent power structure changes in Poland?

We’ll see!

illi,

Eh, Slovakia is even closer to him and the new just elected government is going to be very much Orban and Putin friendly. If he looses friend in Poland, he got replacementc

rikudou,
@rikudou@lemmings.world avatar

And in the next Czech elections, his friend Babiš is going to win, so they’ll at least have 3 of the Visegrad 4.

illi,

God I hope not. That’d be fucking disaster.

rikudou,
@rikudou@lemmings.world avatar

Well, the current government sadly has exactly one good quality: they’re not Babiš. Which was enough in the last elections, but it’s not gonna be enough in the next ones. Unless Babiš dies in the next two years (which is possible, he’s old and all the politics must be stressful for him as well), he’s gonna win.

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