ReversedCookie,

The CEO of Brave made a statement on Twitter that ge won’t integrate the WEI chamged into Brave, so saying it’s not recommended bc of this is missleading.

CrypticCoffee,

It’s a fork of Chromium, so Google will add it. They’ll have to specifically remove it.

Also, if companies are considering implementing WEI, they will look at most of their users on chromium users and say, we most of our users are on Chromium, so the risk is low.

The CEO can say what he wants, but it doesn’t affect whether companies will roll this out. Google can not be trusted to drive web standards, and chromium needs to stop being used if we are to make it clear to website owners that they cannot simply support Chrome/Chromium only.

ReversedCookie,

It’s a fork of Chromium, so Google will add it. They’ll have to specifically remove it.

They already do this with a lot of other features.

Also, if companies are considering implementing WEI, they will look at most of their users on chromium users and say, we most of our users are on Chromium, so the risk is low.

Vilvadi is not going to implement this too. So 2 major chromium based browsers are already out, and the EU will not probaly allow this too.

and chromium needs to stop being used if we are to make it clear to website owners that they cannot simply support Chrome/Chromium only.

People would start using Firefox, if it’s just beeing better. But it isn’t for the most people.

CrypticCoffee,

I have used Firefox for years, and for no problem. This isn’t a general tech advice community. It’s a degoogling community.

If you’re uncomfortable with us recommending other projects not led by or influence by google, is it really the right place for you?

ReversedCookie,

Firefox is lead by the influence of Google, what do think why they use google analytics, why Google is the default search engine, why do Firefox has more Google in it then Brave does? Sorry, but I have rly to question your knowledge base if you ask such questions.

Brave is a degoogled variant of Chromium, there is also Ungoogled Chromium. Brave make zero connections to Google domains, Firefox does. So tell me, what is more degoogled out of the box?

CrypticCoffee, (edited )

I don’t know the reason why they use Google analytics, but I think I read there was certain mitigations in place. I personally wouldn’t go there.

Google pay the most money for default search. Firefox used to have yahoo as the default search engine and could easily switch to Bing if they pay the most. Going with the most money you can get for funding the development of your browser is just sensible strategy. Firefox aren’t in the search market. Who, who cares about privacy doesn’t change their default search engine? You have yet to back up your insinuation that the default search money influences anything. I very much doubt you’ll produce anything substantial.

Considering Brave is modified Chromium, I cannot take seriously the suggestion that Firefox has more google. If Google pull the updates to chromium, Brave is dead, as they sure ain’t investing much time into building a browser. They’re more focussed on ads, and from what I’ve read, affiliate links.

You can question my knowledge base all you want. I have concerns about your motives and conclusions. I am not going to change the decision on this.

dpflug,
@dpflug@hachyderm.io avatar

@ReversedCookie
Except people don't use what's better. That this belief persists is proof enough. You're applying economists' spherical cow, but as the complexity of a system rises, everyone's ability to act rationally decreases. In my experience, most people gave up trying to understand tech years ago and just follow trends.
@CrypticCoffee

JVT038,

I’ve been degoogled for a little bit over a year now and here’s what I use (disclaimer: I own a NAS / homserver, so I got a little bit more options than most people would).

  • Android OS: /e/OS
  • Browser: Firefox and Bromite
  • Maps: Organic Maps
  • Play Store: F-Droid (droidify client in my case) and App Lounge.
  • YouTube: Libretube (privacy-friendly YouTube client)
  • Translation: DeepL
  • Movies, TV Shows, Music: self-hosted Jellyfin
  • Automatic backup of my images and videos: self-hosted Immich
  • VPN server: self-hosted Wireguard server
  • Document management: self-hosted Nextcloud Office + LibreOffice on my PC
  • E-Mail service: ProtonMail (self-hosting this is a pain in the ass, so I’ll just leave it to experts)
  • Search engine: DuckDuckGo

Check out !selfhosted for tons of stuff on self-hosting services and https://www.privacyguides.org/en/ for a lot of other good alternatives.

ExtremeDullard,
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Bromite is a terrible idea. It’s 9 months out of date and it isn’t maintained anymore. It’s superceded by Cromite.

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