DziadekMick, 8 months ago

@AutisticAdam @actuallyautistic The need to be clear and unambiguous is well demonstrated when a work group had a day go kart racing. Asking the guy who won the morning session and being told “I just drove everybody off the track” is not what an autistic person needs to hear as it gets him being removed from the track and not being allowed to drive.

EverydayMoggie, 8 months ago

I feel like this is just basic for talking to any people.

@AutisticAdam @actuallyautistic

engagedpractx, 8 months ago

@AutisticAdam @actuallyautistic

Hello from an autistic workplace trainer.

Are you familiar with Dewey's notion of conscious vs unconscious competence?

Often people don't specify something because they don't know that they know it.

It's hard to ask people to be more clear and specific about something they are not aware they are leaving out.

It's not just NTs. Autistic people do this too — I constantly have to negotiate how much I am narrating about a topic when I deliver training.

Tooden, 8 months ago

@engagedpractx Could it be that they don't perceive a use for some skills, in the jobs they will be doing?@AutisticAdam @actuallyautistic

llPK, 8 months ago

@engagedpractx @AutisticAdam @actuallyautistic I’ve heard it as the curse of knowledge :

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_knowledge

Susan60, 8 months ago

@engagedpractx @AutisticAdam @actuallyautistic Sometimes we get accused of stressing the bleeding obvious, & other times of leaving something out that we thought was obvious.

engagedpractx, 8 months ago

@Susan60 @AutisticAdam @actuallyautistic The word 'accused' is really interesting in your toot — it points to the strong feelings that can emerge when we are trying to communicate and it's not going well.

I think it's useful to treat it as a dialogue that we are actively negotiating rather than a delivery of information at some level of detail or other.

Susan60, 8 months ago

@engagedpractx @AutisticAdam @actuallyautistic I think you’re right about the strong feelings, but in this case coming from the other direction, when someone is offended that I’m stating the obvious, assuming that I think they’re stupid. I don’t often state the obvious, but occasionally do so when I’m not sure if it’s obvious to everyone, or just me.

onisillos, 8 months ago

@AutisticAdam @actuallyautistic

This is the story of my life. Ask me or tell me and I’m good. I don’t understand why neurotypicals act as if people can read minds.