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MrHand,

what’s so extreme about the emergent polygyny hypothesis which I enthusiastically endorse? that’s just going after people for their 1st amendment rights. also the larping feds at that dhs run website themselves encourage extremist rhetoric

MrHand,

but incels.is = dhs

MrHand,

I lived by myself until feds harassed me from my secure job (back in early 2022) and then started subjecting me to sleep deprivation this year.

MrHand,

that’s a recipe for civil liberties violations

MrHand,

I have no problem with that but incels.is = DHS and violates the civil liberties of its unaware users (who in fact never see content from people like themselves.)

MrHand,

they essentially put people in an open air prison (subject to intrusive monitoring) for merely sharing a perspective deemed objectionable by elites who think that perspective becoming commonplace isn’t in their interest.

MrHand,

I haven’t said I was going to kill people.

MrHand,

It goes beyond secret surveillance though – creepy enough as that is. If one were unaware of being surveilled that’s one thing but they let you know so they can take credit for “prevention” even if that person wasn’t going to do anything wrong. So essentially put in an open air prison without trial.

MrHand, (edited )

The Ohio case was one were feds encouraged that guy up until the point were he was going to do something. In fact, he posted on incels.is and the feds there trump up that one case as a huge victory justifying their work. But they duped him and were egging him on. The California guy didn’t actually do anything. There has been one verifiable incel related mass shooting – Elliot Rodger, and that has been used to tarnish the whole community from a place of distaste. Feminists get to tarnish an emergent group that gives them the jeebies and feds get work to replace the dwindling War on Terror. Indeed, feds control the entirety of the incelosphere now and they self-servingly define it as a place of violence and radicalism. Some soros funded outfit that goes by the name of “Center for Countering Digital Hate” did a report on the incelsophere some months back – but they based their report on incels.is, which is operated by feds. This is straight up lying.

MrHand,

How am I dangerous? Is it dangerous to say “emergent polygyny is a problem and men have a coalitional interest in rolling it back”? “They” have a selfish interest in self-promotion and guaranteeing work for themselves which is why they’re wolfishly turning on domestic citizens.

MrHand,

what does monitoring entail? it’s one thing if the person is unaware of it but they also let the person know. that’s putting them in prison without trial. also that incels = violent is charged up rhetoric meant to invalidate their perspective.

MrHand,

It’s dangerous and deluded

How so? That just sounds like a whine. “I don’t like it please daddy government ban it.”

I know it’s hard to deal with the self-hatred but turning it outwards will not help you.

wtf are you talking about?

MrHand,

yikes indeed. that it has come to silencing incels and repressing enough – and that incels.is = dhs – is very much a yikes.

MrHand, (edited )
  1. I am under intrusive monitoring because I posted on forum incels.is (run by DHS.)
  2. I lived in apartment and feds rented the units next to and above me.
  3. This year they started engaging in sonic harassment (sleep denying irregular sounds) meant to keep me agitated and mentally exhausted, likely with view to mental decomposition so I end up hospitalized. People who get involuntarily hospitalized for mental health are deprived of 2nd amendment rights.
MrHand,

Yes but they defined a certain perspective as irredeemably linked to violence, even if that perspective is sociologically true. It’s straight up repression. I’m not the one who mandated that the sexual revolution devolve into polygynous mating habits rendering many men partnerless.

MrHand,

dissidents have often marked as crazy by governments. indeed, they often take a hand in driving that person crazy.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zersetzung

MrHand,

They’ve shutdown all incel spaces across the web and worked with tech platforms like reddit to likewise ban incel spaces. They set up honeypot forums in their place operated by feds so ANY would be incel poster gets scrutinized. When the person ends up in that space and says something a fed doesn’t like, they’re immediately hacked and subject to NSA tools. I became aware of this when, a month or so after posting on incels.is, I started receiving “advice” based on content retrieved from my phone! It goes much further than that – they use metrics to see what threads a reader (not even a user) clicks on and then hack that user. They are often surprised that so many of their readers clicking on violent-endorsing threads by the larping feds end up being women. 😆

MrHand,

I’m not a random guy who can’t get laid. I spoke forthrightly about incel macro issues, got put on a watchlist, am subjected to intrusive monitoring and fed harassment (sleep deprivation, various other things) etc etc.

MrHand,

explained upthread jackass

MrHand,

The ideology you identify with is associated with a tendency toward terrorism / violent actions. That is what everyone here is trying to warn you about.

This has been hyper-exaggerated by people who don’t like that perspective itself and have lobbied the government to stigmatize it by overly associating it with terrorism. It needn’t have been. It’s politicized horseshit. How is a therapist going to help me after I say incels.is = dhs? I want to share that with the internet not a therapist.

I understand, I could perhaps benefit from a therapist with regards to my personal issues but that’s outside that incels.is = DHS.

MrHand,

Considering the resources the government has, they can induce insomnia on an individual in order to get them labeled as schizo, and as I was (am) under intrusive monitoring that might’ve been just the intention so I end up hospitalized and deprived of 2nd amendment rights. Assholes. Indeed, from the FBI’s “Making Prevention a Reality” report, they pretty much say they desire an individual get involuntarily committed solely to deprive them of 2nd amendment rights. That’s very close to saying they’ll undertake action to have that outcome.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/03148d39-fce7-46f1-b5bd-6b98bef8adc0.png

MrHand,

are you saying you are privy to why they really happened (and you acknowledge that they happened?)

MrHand,

…just the ones they want to drive to the madhouse.

MrHand,

If they really thought I was dangerous they wouldn’t have subjected me to sleep deprivation and various harassments…

MrHand,

what’s with the downvotes

MrHand,

I was providing context – who the threat is, my situation, etc. If I was posting “incel propaganda” I would have made incelish points – instead I described what happened and the situation I was in. I even named the program: Countering Violent Extremism which is really just “precrime.” Also, since feds are privy to my online activity in real-time, whose to say they aren’t brigading this thread?

MrHand,

I didn’t post under my real name. I thought it was a free country. I thought if the country was so free as to allow emergent polygyny, then it would just as free to allow critique of that development. I guess I was wrong and the current so called “globohomo” regime is using brute power to repress dissidents.

MrHand,

Whenever someone who comes under the precrime “Countering Violent Extremism” program airs their complaints like I did, invariably there’s someone like you – usually a fed – who says just this sort of thing in order to paint the person as schizo. I ain’t a schizo. I posted on incels.is. It’s a DHS honeypot forum that’s comprised entirely of larping feds and the naïve incel users in fact never see posts by people like themselves. This was my experience. I am not lying. If it didn’t happen to me I couldn’t have dreamt it up.

MrHand,

This is really strange. The Nazis did unspeakable crimes against humanity. In the nearly 20 year existence of the manosphere – almost the entirety of which arose (I claim) as a result of emergent polygyny – there have been just a handful of manosphere related shootings. So your analogy doesn’t fly and is laughable. Of course, maybe you see incels as Nazis, but then that would just speak to your own hysterical prejudice and distaste, not reality. You vindicate the “precrime” civil liberties violating program that goes by the name of “Countering Violent Extremism” which entirely goes after people for their 1st amendment protected speech. You’re more destructive than any incel will ever be.

MrHand,

I swear by all that is good and true it ain’t. See my twitter where I chronicle my experience of having fallen under DHS’s “countering violent extremism” program – literally just precrime. Outrageous violations of civil liberties. All the stops are being pulled against incels.

twitter.com/WrongedIncel

MrHand,

Yes, I am a romantically and sexually deprived hetero adult male who happens to coincidentally see the problem of emergent polygyny.

twitter.com/WrongedIncel/…/1695125852105621839

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