You are totally ignorant to how odd and out of place your comments seem to people reading them. You came in with a strange non sequitur that wasn’t really relevant to the discussion at all, then got all weird when people engaged you on it, like your version of whatever was going on here didn’t happen.
You are the odd one out here! It was fun to read tho.
This is not the cheapest, you can get better pricing than this with a Costco business account. Your friend is probably not serving the lowest price bulk bread available, they probably have some self respect.
For those of you listening at home, the young constable has just thrown up into his helmet. This is the longest continuous vomit seen on Broadway since John Barrymore puked over Laertes in the second act of Hamlet in 1941.
Bringing race or intersectionality into a class debate with the intention of poisoning the well, IS propaganda from the ruling classes. The wealthy elite may look like the monopoly guy in many peoples heads, and that guy is real, don’t get me wrong (especially in the West), and he represents a huge amount of the wealth and power.
But the class struggle exists in parallel, class exists inside race, Indians are suffering under a class system that is being forced on them by other Indians.
If you don’t acknowledge that the oligarchy exists to exploit, you will never address the injustices inside a homogenous culture. If you don’t acknowledge that class alone is plenty of reason to dehuminize, you are not engaging with reality.
That all exists on the race and gender side too. We’re all in this together.
You just have to look at western sensibilities to understand the missing harem trope. The heroes in Western stories have a once in a lifetime romance. If there’s a problem with the romance, it’s part of the evil plot device (Ursula in the little mermaid.)
Western power fantasy tropes come in the form of the white savior or agents above the law tropes. John Carter was written in the early 1900’s, Stranger in a Strange Land by Heinlein in the 60’s.
Octavia Butler takes those classically white and Western tropes and turns them on their head.
Also, collapse of society movies are close to American/English isekai because of our obsession with both apocalypse and saviors. Walking dead is a great example.
Money-optimistic technocratic libertarians. When you act is if all problems can be solved by innovation. As if it’s not just a series of pens with clocks in them.
I think that’s actually the crux of our disagreement and I don’t think we’ll come together on it.
I think the fact that he ever engaged in any sort of romantic relationship with a 12 year old makes him more likely to do it again, he’s the kind of person who would get into a relationship with a 12 year old as a 24 year old.
I believe you are taking the face value indication from the word “genuine relationship” and not really interrogating the “with a 12 year old” part. I don’t think anything I say is gonna change that, and I don’t think your opinion is exactly gonna win over hearts and minds on my end, so I guess I’ll end it there!
So let the dude prey on other children? Or spend resources on closely monitoring him for however long his parole is, same with the mom. But as you noted, these “stupid” people are a continuing risk, right? I don’t know, maybe this is the appropriate use of prison, I do wish there were education and rehabilitation programs that weren’t gutted, but in this case prison solves so many problems for the victim!
The dude who was in the relationship to the 12 year old and either didn’t realize his impact or didn’t care, as well as the mother you mean? I would argue they continue to pose a real danger to the daughter, and that man committed an egregious act of abuse on a child who was at worse coerced and at best a victim of a much older person.
I have no trust he won’t engage in this same behavior again. Unless you think it was just an exceptional 12 year old? Like have you met any 12 year olds so wise and beautiful you forgot about the fact they were 12 and just wanted to fuck a baby into them?
Although I totally agree that the prison system in the US is a sort of torture/slave labor system and many of the people engaged in that system are due to circumstances rather than “crime”.
Absolutely not the case here, this is a pretty easy call to make imo!