“view context” broken b̶e̶c̶a̶u̶s̶e̶ (and) lemmy.world has just joined Cloudflare (unrelated)

I was trying to work out why it is that when I receive a notification and I click “view context” nothing happens if the msg came from lemmy.world. The screen blinks for a second but gives no prior posts. Well after digging into this, I see that #lemmyWorld has just recently joined the exclusive #walledGarden of Cloudflare....

diyrebel, (edited ) to lemmy_support in “view context” broken b̶e̶c̶a̶u̶s̶e̶ (and) lemmy.world has just joined Cloudflare (unrelated)

Ah, thanks for the info. But note that there are two “show context” buttons. In principle, if I am on a broken version I should be able to visit the parent on the originating node & possibly side-step the bug. But in this case the other node blocks me (Cloudflare).

Also note that I would still like a way to block CF instances. I’m in the to participate in the free world & prefer not to feed centralized walled gardens from which I am a refugee. Oppressors should not be able to thrive in the .

is centralized in 2 ways:

  • Cloudflare
  • disproportionate user population
diyrebel, to lemmy_support in “view context” broken b̶e̶c̶a̶u̶s̶e̶ (and) lemmy.world has just joined Cloudflare (unrelated)

It’s complicated. I first used the chain link which is purely internal. This expands the msg and offers the “show context” option which gives nothing (due to the bug). Then I try the fedi icon and nothing happens at all… no expansion or anything. But I can see that the button is sensitive because it flashed as I clicked it. So then I forcefully copied that external link into a new tab in Tor Browser and it just shoots a blank. No text at all. Then I copied that same Lemmy World link into ungoogled chromium running over tor, which shows #LemmyWorld’s blockade I screencapped.

Note that ungoogled chromium has experimental value and reveals the problem (Cloudflare), but all versions of #Lemmy I have encountered have always been wholly broken in ungoogled chromium. Lemmy forces the use of Firefox-based browsers (and last time i checked Lemmy is quite useless in text browsers as well).

nachtigall, to lemmy_support in “view context” broken b̶e̶c̶a̶u̶s̶e̶ (and) lemmy.world has just joined Cloudflare (unrelated)
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Then I try the fedi icon and nothing happens at all… no expansion or anything. But I can see that the button is sensitive because it flashed as I clicked it. So then I forcefully copied that external link into a new tab in Tor Browser and it just shoots a blank.

Indeed. I can reproduce this behaviour with this comment from this thread. See the following screenshot from my network console. The body says {“error”: “not_logged_in”}, so maybe a caching error or something like that? I’ll ping the admin of lemmy.world

https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/3ff8664b-f4fc-42ca-b31c-cc6de51b97f8.webp

running over tor, which shows ’s blockade I screencapped.

That makes sense. Cloudflare often blocks Tor IPs or spams them with captchas.

have always been wholly broken in ungoogled chromium.

No problem on my side.

https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/0ae703b7-e6a7-4cc5-9e8d-6010aa3cfdcc.webp

diyrebel, (edited ) to technology in Google engineers want to make ad-blocking (near) impossible

Maybe you misunderstand the enforcement part of the GDPR. It’s not made for you to get personal enforcement out of it.

You obviously have not read article 77. This article entitles individuals to report GDPR violations to a DPA for enforcement. Article 77 does not distinguish violations against an individual (which I suppose is what you mean by “personal enforcement”) and violations against many. Some of the violations I have reported can only be construed as violations against the general public. E.g. an org fails to designate a DPO.

The problem is there is nothing to enforce article 77 itself. When a DPA neglects to act on an article 77 report, there is no recourse. There is only a provision that allows lawsuits against the GDPR violators. But then when someone did that, and then claimed legal costs, an Italian court decided for everyone in a precedence-setting case that legal costs are not recoverable. Which essentially neuters the court action remedy. So we have an unenforced article 77 and a costly & impractical direct action option.

It works on the basis of multiple infractions being recorded and then escalating the agencies response level.

It’s not even doing that much, in some cases. The report has to get past the front desk secretary and be submitted into the litigation chamber before it’s even considered as something that would indicate a trend. If it doesn’t get past the secretary it does nothing whatsoever. Some of my reports were flippantly rejected by a pre-screening secretary for bogus reasons (e.g. “your complaint is ‘contractual in nature’” when in fact there is no contractual agreement, apart from the fact that the existence of a contract does not nullify the GDPR anyway).

I work with many companies as IT consultant and I can assure you, that they all FEAR the GDPR

So you’re only seeing the commercial response. Gov agencies & NGOs are also subject to the GDPR, which is where you see the most recklessness (likely due to the lack of penalty). On the commercial side banks also don’t give much of a shit about the GDPR because when they violate it there’s a shit ton of banking regs they point to and the DPAs are afraid to act against banks because of the messy entanglement of AML/KYC laws that essentially push to violate the GDPR.

Enforcement of GDPR does happen and you can review every enforcement on a public website called enforcement tracker.

Indeed I’ve browsed through the enforcement tracker. It’s a good prop for making the public believe that the is being well enforced. They are cherry-picking cases to enforce to convince the public that something is being done, but people who actually submit reports know better. We see the reports that are clearly going unenforced.

I have also personally requested information about me and my family through the rights bestowed by the GDPR

I have had article 15 access requests denied which I then reported to the DPA, who opened a case but just sat on it. For years, so far.

(edit) By the way, I suggest you leave Lemmy·world for a different instance. If you care about privacy at all, you don’t use Cloudflare nodes. I cannot even see the msg I wrote (which you replied to) because blocks me (which I give some detail here: lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/1435972). I had to reply to you based purely on your msg without context.

lazycouchpotato, to random
@lazycouchpotato@mastodon.social avatar

lemmy.world and lemmy.blahaj.zone appear to have been hijacked.

Oh man. Not a good outlook.

xerosome, to random
@xerosome@mastodon.social avatar

looks like an admin account on lemmy.world was compromised, I wouldn't advise visiting the home page for a while.

modlog shows admin removed and some clean-up is happening https://lemmy.world/modlog

thread on lemmy.ml
https://lemmy.ml/post/1895271

thread on lemmy.world
https://lemmy.world/post/1286980

stux, to geddit
@stux@mstdn.social avatar

Our Lemmy instance on https://geddit.social is back up btw!

Like often something weird caused the issue, on that more here https://geddit.social/post/153257

@stux
@geddit

vintprox,
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@stux @stux

Maaaan, I just was searching for a good instance to jump into from . Hello, @geddit!

maegul, to fediversenews
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settles on its being central instance: lemmy.world () run by @ruud

Its numbers are now big enough to be counted amongst the top 5-10 masto instances! (https://fedidb.org/network/instance/lemmy.world) as become the “second platform” by size.

Apart from running it well and keeping up to date (recent update seems to have gone well, with a nice example of instances and admins helping each other!?), some redditers seek the big instances?? Curious how communities will adapt.

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