China ridicules Taiwan's defence goals as island unveils new submarine

The submarines will use a combat system by US defence company Lockheed Martin Corp and carry US-made torpedoes.

Admiral Huang Shu-kuang, Ms Tsai’s security adviser, described the submarines as a “strategic deterrent” that could also help maintain the island’s “lifeline” to the Pacific by keeping ports along Taiwan’s eastern coast open.

China openly ridiculed Taiwanese hopes for what the submarines could do to defend the island.

“No matter how many weapons the Democratic Progressive Party buys, it will not obstruct the greater trend of reunification with the motherland,” said Senior Colonel Wu Qian, a spokesperson in China’s Ministry of National Defense.

SexMachineStalin,
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steering-device

zephyreks,

China’s… not so wrong with this one. Under the previous KMT government, Taiwan-China relations were normalizing (not to the degree of reunification, but to the degree that conflict wasn’t really on the horizon anymore because of the economic harm it would cause). The DPP has taken a strongly anti-China stance and the result has been escalating tensions… All while bilateral trade across the strait continues to grow.

A_Chilean_Cyborg,
@A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl avatar

Yeah… I wonder why Taiwanese people would choose a heavily Anti China party? you knowz the superpower that wants to invade them and strip them of their democracy, specially just like they did with HongKong.

DogMuffins,

Things are tense because China is encroaching on Taiwan’s sovereignty. Don’t try to say it’s Taiwan’s fault because they haven’t been able to avert the desires of their suitor.

zephyreks,

Encroaching on Taiwan’s sovereignty by flying in international airspace over international waters?

DogMuffins,

No, encroaching on Taiwan’s sovereignty by claiming that Taiwan is a province of China and exerting pressure on other sovereign nations to adopt that position.

I’m honestly intrigued by your comments. I’m trying to figure out whether it’s possible to sincerely believe the things you’re saying. I think it’s much more likely that you’re promoting an ideology through misrepresentations - I’m just a little surprised that Lemmy would be a fertile platform for that.

zephyreks, (edited )

Have you picked up a history book? Taiwan literally still claims mainland China and the South China Sea as ROC territory. Maybe read Taiwan’s Constitution instead of the American media interpretation of it? It’s not my fault that you seem happier to spread ideology with American interpretations than deal with actual facts.

brain_in_a_box,

Taiwan also claims that Taiwan is a province of China.

MikuNPC,

It’s reasonable for any country to be “anti-china” when they are being targeted like Taiwan is. China speaks constantly of invasion and frequently violates Taiwans airspace for practice runs of an invasion. Spinning it as Taiwans fault is mindless propaganda

zephyreks,

And yet, under the KMT government relations were normalizing. In the past, mainland China had extremely positive rhetoric towards Taiwan (and Taiwan towards mainland China). Even today, trade grows and cultural coupling grows.

Frankly, claiming that China violates Taiwan’s airspace shows a gross misunderstanding of international aviation law. American FONOPs in the area since 2016 have broken the status quo that the Chinese and Taiwanese governments were using to split the strait: if the strait is international waters outside of the 12km limit, then the air above it is international airspace by definition.

Oddly enough, that timeline also coincides with Taiwan’s government flipping from KMT rule to DPP rule.

SexMachineStalin, (edited )
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me violating “Taiwan’s” airspace when I throw a paper airplane out of the window in Wenzhou, lmao

Also Taiwan isn’t recognized as a country by pretty much …anyone. No one in BRICS+, in the Global South, hell even no one in the international-community-1international-community-2 recognizes the island’s “independence”. Calling it an “encroachment on sovereignty” is like calling me trifling through my German-made refrigerator looking for noms a “violation of German sovereignty”.

MikuNPC,

Sigh - you are not throwing paper airplanes over the Taiwan strait which is roughly 100 miles over the water. Please educate yourself on what China’s military is doing. And do you think some poll on who sides with China VS Taiwan on sovereignty matters is relevant?

Taiwan strongly rejects reunification, Chinese rule, and increasingly view themselves as Taiwanese. Why dont you consider their aspirations instead of enabling authoritarian countries to harass and intimidate?

brain_in_a_box,

Oh please enlighten us, Mr ‘educated on what China’s military is doing’; tell us all about these “violations of Tiawans airspace practicing an invasion.”

MikuNPC,

Yikes, defensive much? This isnt hard to find but sure - …csis.org/…/2022-adiz-violations-china-dials-up-p…

brain_in_a_box,

I take it you didn’t even bother to read your own article, because nowhere in it does it mention China violating Taiwan’s airspace.

That or you’re being deliberately dishonest.

brain_in_a_box,

frequently violates Taiwans airspace for practice runs of an invasion.

I dare you to try and present an example of this happening ever, let alone “constantly”. You dishonest lib.

merc,

This looks like a standard utility / attack sub, but I wonder if it could be used as a blockade runner / merchant sub if China tried to blockade Taiwan. It wouldn’t do much good for shipping bulk goods like food in, but you wouldn’t need much cargo capacity to ship out high value, small size things like the chips made by TSMC.

Fazoo,
@Fazoo@lemmy.ml avatar

China: Your submarine is stupid and you look awful in that light.

hoshikarakitaridia,

*West Taiwan

they’re gonna get real mad if you use the wrong name xd

UFODivebomb,

Link does not match title

flathead,

it does. original headline image

UFODivebomb,

Probably depends on locale. Definitely doesn’t match what I see

Zeroxxx,
@Zeroxxx@lemmy.my.id avatar

Ye, doesn’t match on mine as well.

boredtortoise,

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