Defederate From lemmy.dbzer0.com

They are a lemmy instance dedicated to the facilitation of piracy, and copyright infringement in general which is illegal. It is by nature in violation of the rules of your instance which prohibit illegal content, therefore it is imperative that you defederate it in accordance with your policies.

quinten , (edited )
@quinten@lemmy.world avatar

As OP said, he has received a reaction from the admins and with that his question is answered. I’ll close this topic for now since this is not a discussion community on what is piracy and what not.

Edit: I have to clairify it a bit more: discussion is of course allowed, but in a civil way. The discussion in this topic was more about one person rather than the topic: pirating. This was not well worded from my side. Apologies.

ThankYouVeryMuch ,

This wanker's not a lemmy.world user, but not just that, they made the account just now, maybe for the sole purpose of shitting on an instance

ghost ,
@ghost@xcore.social avatar

Correct. Trolling, and badly might I add.

polyrhythm ,
@polyrhythm@lemmy.world avatar

Did I miss something? Did this already happen? I can’t seem to access the piracy community from lemmy.world, I’m getting a “couldnt_find_community” error

Bungiefan_ak OP ,

They deleted it, but there are many more like it on that instance that they didn’t delete, I say defederate the whole thing because they’re probably going to just make more like it. Deleting them is just going to be a cat and mouse game and more and more will slip though the cracks.

Proof they deleted it (it’s also in the Site Modlog): https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/d6191b3a-3449-474d-b3ef-2ae7bb229943.webp

hal_5700X , (edited )
@hal_5700X@lemmy.world avatar

Oh wait

EDIT You’re a lemm.ee user, so why do you care about Lemmy.world? Just focus on lemm.ee.

Bungiefan_ak OP ,

I already did, I DMed the Admins there, they said they’ll look into it.

CaptObvious ,

Does this seem to anyone else like a non-native speaker trying to sound officious or lawyerly?

ghost ,
@ghost@xcore.social avatar

Copyright infringement is illegal. Talking about copyright infringement is not.

Bungiefan_ak OP ,

They’re literally facilitating the sharing of torrents. That’s not “just talking about copyright infringement” that’s the facilitation of it.

ghost ,
@ghost@xcore.social avatar

Torrent files also aren’t illegal.

Also, you’re on the internet, which isn’t beholden solely to US copyright laws, so unless you’re a lawyer who specializes in international copyright law, I doubt you can speak with any certainty to the legality of post content in every jurisdiction across the globe.

Here’s an idea: if you don’t want to see that content, block the community.

Bungiefan_ak OP ,

They are illegal when they contain copyrighted material like games or movies, which is what those contain, they literally say it.

Also, you’re on the internet, which isn’t beholden solely to US copyright laws

It’s illegal in the US and either way it’s against lemmy.world’s server rules, specifically rule 1

No illegal content, including sharing copyrighted material without the explicit permission of the owner(s).

I think you’re defending it because you’re a pirate.

ghost ,
@ghost@xcore.social avatar

Torrent files do not contain any copyrighted material and it’s not my job to educate you on how they work.

I dont really give a shit why you think anything.

Bungiefan_ak OP ,

You’re arguing semantics here because you know that I’m right, a torrent doesn’t literally contain a movie file, but it is used to fetch the copyrighted movie file. It makes you look bad when you make these stupid flaky arguments just because you want to keep access to your filthy pirate site. You’re not even on lemmy.world how does this concern you at all?

(PS I already messaged Lemm.ee admins about this issue, they’re looking into it.)

ghost ,
@ghost@xcore.social avatar

You know what people tend to say when they’re wrong?

You’re arguing semantics

The law is semantics you dolt.

You’re not even on lemmy.world how does this concern you at all?

“[email protected]” is a weird way to spell “lemmy.world”

You can keep replying if you want to keep getting dunked on, your funeral.

CaptObvious ,

And “copyright” has so many different definitions around the planet that it’s impossible to say if any of their discussions are about infringement.

sourcery ,

Discussions aren’t illegal in most places, but maybe Disney will give you your good boy points.

Bungiefan_ak OP ,

They’re literally facilitating the sharing of illegal torrents and also links to copyrighted rom files. That’s not discussion that’s directly enabling piracy which is against Lemmy.world’s rules

  1. No illegal content, including sharing copyrighted material without the explicit permission of the owner(s).
moitoi ,

Torrenting to download is legal in my country.

Bungiefan_ak OP ,

Good for you, still illegal in good old America, and that’s all that matters here. Why not host your own lemmy instance and federate with them then.

ghost ,
@ghost@xcore.social avatar

Why not host your own lemmy instance and defederate with them then?

Dumbass

Bungiefan_ak OP ,

If I hosted my own I certainly would, I would never federate with Instances which host of facilitate illegal content.

However this isn’t about my instance or your instance, it’s about an Instance who’s primary goal violates the rules and guidelines of the lemmy.world server, by virtue of being an Instance dedicated to Piracy. It’s not about disliking them, it’s about what is right, and illegal activity isn’t right or acceptable. Also it’s literally in their rules, if lemmy.world didn’t care or have rule 1 I wouldn’t even bother here.

  1. No illegal content, including sharing copyrighted material without the explicit permission of the owner(s).

It’s literally right there, lemmy.dbzer0.com violates that by being a hub for piracy.

ghost ,
@ghost@xcore.social avatar

So go host your own instance.

Considering your account was created 3 hours ago, and the content you’ve posted so far, nothing of value will be lost.

Thanks for the entertainment.

Bungiefan_ak OP ,

I think you missed the whole point of this, or you’re misrepresenting on purpose. It’s literally an instance that violates their rules, you’re all conviently ignoring that fact because you don’t want to see them defederated.

ghost ,
@ghost@xcore.social avatar

I’ve explained in a variety of ways how torrent files are not inherently illegal, nor is discussion of piracy.

I’ve accurately countered every poorly conceived point you’ve tried to make, and your response has been to:

  • call me a “dirty pirate” (lol)
  • insinuate my point is null because the account I’m posting from isn’t hosted on lemmy.world (neither is yours)
  • accuse me of misrepresentation

Take the loss, shut up, move on. You aren’t entertaining anymore.

I’ll make this easy for everyone - you’re blocked, and I’ll sprinkle in a nice report to the lemm.ee admins, as I’m sure they will be curious to know why a 3 hour old account is trying in bad faith to dictate federation rules on a server they aren’t a member of.

Welcome to the fediverse.

Xariphon ,

No one's misrepresenting, you're just an idiot.

moitoi ,

My argument is to not pretend it’s illegal when it’s not worldwide. What you write is American defaulting.

Maybe don’t host in the US or in a similar juridiction. The same argument as self hosting.

Bungiefan_ak OP ,

Well I am an American and I support American values, so as far as I’m concerned it’s wrong and illegal.

Also isn’t lemmy.world in America? Pretty sure it is since they did remove two of their communites for this very reason:

https://lemm.ee/pictrs/image/d6191b3a-3449-474d-b3ef-2ae7bb229943.webp

WhoRoger ,
@WhoRoger@lemmy.world avatar

good old America, and that’s all that matters here

Americans are so adorable, I want to pet them 😅 Yes who’s the bestest country in the world? Of course you are, yes, you, good boi

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