maol,

How many rounds of IVF is the poor pregnant partner, inevitably a cis woman, meant to do? Isn’t IVF infamously fucking gruelling, requiring injections and ending in miscarriages? Is her husband going to make her feel like shit for refusing to make being pregnant her full time job? A massive amount of reproductive labour is just being taken for granted here.

And if these EAers refuse, the reproductive labour just gets passed on to other women. Grimes didn’t want to have another kid with Elon (aren’t they nonbinary? I’m sure it might have caused them dysphoria) so Elon persuaded one of his fucking employees into doing IVF and being their surrogate because it’s important for smart people to have kids. (Source)

Reproductive rights - never more important!

JohnBierce,

Uggggghhhhhhhhhhhh

carlitoscohones,

Indeed, super casual. Disturbingly so.

“2 of the triplets can’t read at grade level; the plus 5 IQ option didn’t deliver enough utils in my Monte Carlo simulation.”

gerikson,
@gerikson@awful.systems avatar

Is “polygenic” a real word or is a SSC shibboleth?

blakestacey,
@blakestacey@awful.systems avatar

It’s a real term, meaning “influenced by multiple genes”, but who knows what weird baggage SSC have around it.

gnomicutterance,
@gnomicutterance@hachyderm.io avatar

deleted_by_author

  • Loading...
  • gerikson,
    @gerikson@awful.systems avatar

    Maybe he’s referring to “middle-class” in the original, British sense. I.e. lawyers and other professionals.

    maol,

    30k is still a big whack of cash for a professional. They might have to send their kids to a state school!

    Soyweiser,

    Yeah that is silly esp as he himself wrote an article on how there are certain bands of experience you know and understand and how much there is outside of it. He is so bad at applying his own words to his own reasoning. Yeah sure the middleclass has another 300k to spare on their kids (I’m rounding the 0.5 kid up, no half kids today).

    Soyweiser,

    “How dare you call us eugenicists!”

    Is that top reply from Scott? And is he really saying that what is holding eugenics back for now is ethical concerns?

    bitofhope,
    @bitofhope@awful.systems avatar

    Well I certainly hope ethical concerns are holding back eugenics. Possibly even among the main things doing so.

    Soyweiser,

    I think when we say ‘held back by ethical concerns’ and he says ‘held back by ethical concerns’ it means different things.

    gnomicutterance,
    @gnomicutterance@hachyderm.io avatar

    deleted_by_author

  • Loading...
  • Soyweiser,

    I’m hinting at the idea that he thinks that a large field off glass would improve the view. (Based on his remark in the past that he thinks people on benefits should be sterilized).

    Koboldschadenfroh,

    deleted_by_author

  • Loading...
  • Soyweiser,

    The more you learn about the sneerclub targets, the more you see this subject come back and back again. HBD keeps propping up over and over again for example.

    raktheundead,

    Is that a special case of the trolley problem - sacrificing Silicon Valley for the sake of everybody else that has to live with their decisions?

    Koboldschadenfroh, (edited )

    deleted_by_author

  • Loading...
  • froztbyte,

    “congratulations”, you’ve found the people who are pushing its rise, the ideologues penning the bigthonks underpinning the bad takes

    it is very much a thing, unfortunately

    dgerard,
    @dgerard@awful.systems avatar

    yeah, you know those guys who talk about the prospect of artificial intelligence taking over and destroying humanity? this is them, this sub sneerclub is about them, and this is the underbelly of their wonderful beliefs

    Koboldschadenfroh,

    deleted_by_author

  • Loading...
  • dgerard,
    @dgerard@awful.systems avatar

    i warn you, it’s a rabbit hole.

    enjoy this article for some of the sillier stuff (all referenced in detail)

    Koboldschadenfroh,

    deleted_by_author

  • Loading...
  • dgerard,
    @dgerard@awful.systems avatar

    it actually started as r/sneerclub on reddit, which branched off from r/badphilosophy because so much Yudkowsky badphil was being posted there.

    Koboldschadenfroh,

    deleted_by_author

  • Loading...
  • dgerard,
    @dgerard@awful.systems avatar

    A good starter article is this one which is in the sidebar of the sub.

    fasterandworse,
    @fasterandworse@awful.systems avatar

    they will not stop until everything organic can be machine readable

    swlabr,

    I’m just going to pretend that this thread was instead about IV breeding Pokemon. I don’t need to see a casual expression of some of humanity’s worst ideas on Reddit.

    bitofhope,
    @bitofhope@awful.systems avatar

    Do not give SSC a water stone.

    gerikson,
    @gerikson@awful.systems avatar

    Best way to do it would be adding some genetic fitness signalling to internet dating.

    Yeah, I may look like a serial killer and my political views would make Hitler blush, but check out my genes, baby!

    bitofhope,
    @bitofhope@awful.systems avatar

    Imagining a very literal version of The Selfish Gene where I’m rejected when asking someone out only because my partner doesn’t want her child to enjoy cilantro because she thinks it tastes like soap and also thinks rolling your tongue is gross.

    gnomicutterance,
    @gnomicutterance@hachyderm.io avatar

    deleted_by_author

  • Loading...
  • bitofhope,
    @bitofhope@awful.systems avatar

    I’ve been pleasantly surprised by the number of people who think my fuzzy digits are cute.

    Behold my supreme genotype!

    SturgiesYrFase,
    @SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml avatar

    Should really be doing screen shots or an archive link so we’re not driving traffic to reddit.

    That said, fucking wot?

    self, (edited )
    @self@awful.systems avatar
    Evinceo,

    Perfect, now it will be safe from getting scrubbed next time SVSS realizes he’s let the mask slip.

    froztbyte,

    Probably need to get that archive refreshed, there’s fresh terrible replies

    self,
    @self@awful.systems avatar

    that there are! updated

    gerikson, (edited )
    @gerikson@awful.systems avatar

    “Thanks.”

    Edit JFC I went back and read the new comments. Pro-tip: don’t.

    froztbyte,

    yeah sorry I should probably have included a (stronger) warning

    gnomicutterance,
    @gnomicutterance@hachyderm.io avatar

    deleted_by_author

  • Loading...
  • Soyweiser,

    Scott’s bragged about his shtetl ancestry

    Isn’t that the other Scott? Or are both Scotts now involved. (I don’t have the time for additional psychic damage today, so im not going to check).

    gerikson,
    @gerikson@awful.systems avatar

    Yes, that’s the other Scott. Scott Alexander tries to project an air of sexual superiority, while Scott Aaronsson’s whole self-identification is that it’s a literal gift from God that he managed to find someone to marry.

    Soyweiser,

    I could not remember seeing Alexander talk about his sexuality, and all I recall was somebody in r/ssc complaining that we didn’t know he was anhedonic (which is weird, as I found him talk about his sexual feelings, like the poster didn’t get what asexuality means (unless he talked about this more and I missed it)). But I looked it up, and I found this:

    “Applying enough charity to fully fund the Red Cross for the next fifty years, [name of neo-nazi pickupartist removed] seems to be saying something along the lines of “Polyamory is especially well-suited for asexual people”. And I agree!

    Many of the people I know in successful polyamorous relationships are sexual, sometimes even highly sexual. But I also know a disproportionate number of asexual polyamorous people – including myself – and the combination seems to work really, really well.”

    Source: slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/27/cuddle-culture/

    So yeah, his sexual superiority comes from being an ace poly person I guess (not sure where you got that from his writings, but whatever. Do wonder why he feels the need to interact with (at least intellectually) and link to people who want him to stop existing for several reasons whoever, esp as this is not really extended towards the left (and for the record I don’t want him to stop existing)).

    gerikson,
    @gerikson@awful.systems avatar

    What I should have written is that I believe Alexander is a person who wants to give the impression that sexuality doesn’t define him. His is a life of the mind, after all.

    Soyweiser,

    Fair enough, my effort post was more about how the anhedonic remark and how I didn’t find proof in the past (but kept it in mind) and that I found proof he talked about his asexuality btw. (I either didn’t look hard in the past or forgot I found the proof before already).

    gerikson,
    @gerikson@awful.systems avatar

    Don’t apologize, I was talking out of my ass.

    Maybe the 2 Scotts represent the 2 poles of TREACLES sexuality - on the one hand, the effortless “I’m too sexy for my shirt, all the girls want me, but I will not give in to the pleasures of the flesh”, on the other the seething resentment that hot girls are denied them. I dunno, this has led to me thinking way too much about the sex lives of 2 people I really cannot stand.[1]

    [1] that said, I’m pretty sure Aaronson would at least try to be a good dad. But maybe I’m being too generous.

    froztbyte,

    “polarity of TREACLES sexuality” is an infohazard, damn you :P

    saucerwizard,

    More closeted then ace from what I’ve been tood - but thats common in this scene.

    gnomicutterance,
    @gnomicutterance@hachyderm.io avatar

    deleted_by_author

  • Loading...
  • earthquake,

    Don’t* forget Adams! We have at least 3 horrible Scott A’s.

    *or do

    bitofhope, (edited )
    @bitofhope@awful.systems avatar

    Same, I can seldom tell if people are talking of the SSC anagram namesake guy or the other guy, and usually don’t want to either. If it’s the Dilbert guy I can usually tell by the context. And I worry there might be one or more notable treacles with the last name Scott to make it even more confusing.

    Personally, I have better things to keep track of and you probably have as well.

    gerikson,
    @gerikson@awful.systems avatar

    No one in that thread bothered to even don their masks…

  • All
  • Subscribed
  • Moderated
  • Favorites
  • random
  • uselessserver093
  • Food
  • aaaaaaacccccccce
  • [email protected]
  • test
  • CafeMeta
  • testmag
  • MUD
  • RhythmGameZone
  • RSS
  • dabs
  • Socialism
  • KbinCafe
  • TheResearchGuardian
  • Ask_kbincafe
  • oklahoma
  • feritale
  • SuperSentai
  • KamenRider
  • All magazines