@MadeyeTheCarnaptious@strathearnrose@peterbrown they might be relatively safe, but they aren't always pleasant to use. I'm not a particularly fast cyclist, I always either ding my bell or shout hello to let folk know I'm there and invariably I still "shock" at least one walker so badly they need to give me an evil stare or make a nasty comment. Sometimes you just can not get their attention, so what do you do?