It would seem that Glasgow has some way to go before placing pedestrians at the top of the hierarchy of road users.
Basically what this sign says is cyclists should ping their bells or shout and pedestrians should get out their way “politely”. 
It even says make yourself visible!
Are pedestrians expected to wear dayglo yellow?
@peterbrown what do you think it should say?
I just see a sign that reminds people to be considerate. I rarely cycle on these paths at peak dog walking times because it's just about impossible to negotiate oblivious people who don't care that other people exist, and then who get furious when it turns out we do.
@CloudyMrs@peterbrown I’m not convinced that shared use paths are in any way manageable or safe unless they are incredibly wide - which they rarely are
They are relatively safe as long as cyclists (and pedestrians) behave prudently and courteously according to the path. That's not always the case. The guidelines / regulations should be improved and possibly sanctions threatened? Easier said than done when cycle networks aren't always on public highways (eg the Forth & Clyde Canal towpath).
@MadeyeTheCarnaptious@strathearnrose@peterbrown they might be relatively safe, but they aren't always pleasant to use. I'm not a particularly fast cyclist, I always either ding my bell or shout hello to let folk know I'm there and invariably I still "shock" at least one walker so badly they need to give me an evil stare or make a nasty comment. Sometimes you just can not get their attention, so what do you do?
@MadeyeTheCarnaptious@strathearnrose@CloudyMrs@peterbrown I disagree. You can't safely mix cyclists moving at ~15mph with pedestrians (and dogs!) moving at ~3mph; and if cyclists can't sustain an efficient speed, it's not a useful cyclepath.
I think we need enforced 20mph speed limits on non-arterial urban roads and on unclassified rural roads, and put the cyclists mostly back on the road.
Certainly for commuting I'd agree, what about cyclists who also want to use a more relaxed route to decompress? Strikes me that's about wider safer paths with differentiated lanes. That takes major investment over years to achieve. And round we go again....
@simon_brooke@nusher@MadeyeTheCarnaptious@strathearnrose@peterbrown we aren't treated as traffic though. We are treated as a pain in the arse by motorised traffic for being too slow and a pain in the arse by foot traffic for being too fast.
All relevant annoyances, but when cycling continues to be pushed as a viable alternative to taking the car, it gets a bit fraught. I tend to try and use the route of least conflict rather than of most convenience.
@CloudyMrs@nusher@MadeyeTheCarnaptious@strathearnrose@peterbrown Well, but this is where we must campaign for change. When I was young, drinking and driving, and not wearing seat belts, was normal. Smoking in offices was normal. Touching women without permission was normal. Prejudice against minorities was normal. Now none of those things are acceptable.
Social attitudes can change; we need to change this one, too.
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