hrefna,
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I have some quibbles with this article (and some eye rolls), but looking past that there are a couple of pull aspects that I think hit on some VERY IMPORTANT concepts, especially for the going forward.

I also think that this is a pretty typical feeling or experience for a lot of people as they move off of and , and that's important too.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/3/23782607/social-web-public-apps-end-reddit-twitter-mastodon

hrefna,
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I especially think these early points are salient on what we are seeing and it hits on something interesting:

We've always known that we are the product for free services, but now we are seeing a shift from us being a "product" to being "unpaid workers"

Unpaid workers that companies like this take for granted

They want me to generate content for them to sell to other companies, rather than selling access to me. I might be okay with the latter (or not), but I am in no way okay with the former

Add it all up, and the social web is changing in three crucial ways: It’s going from public to private; it’s shifting from growth and engagement, which broadly involves building good products that people like, to increasing revenue no matter the tradeoff; and it’s turning into an entertainment business.

hrefna,
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Thinking about this more I really like this analogy because it works on several different levels.

When you are aiming to advertise to me what is being sold is access to me. In exchange I am being given your software.

When you steal my work without permission, you are assuming that you have the right to what I produce, but you aren't asking me to work for you. You are simply taking/stealing.

The new and want people to work for them and pay for the privilege of doing so.

yoasif,
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patchw3rk,
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Hi yoasif, you're doing tremendous work on that list.

Would it be possible to add https://kbin.social/m/bestof as an unofficial replacement of /r/BestOf?

yoasif,
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@patchw3rk @hrefna As what status? With you as a former member?

patchw3rk, (edited )
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I am a former member, not moderator though. Is that appropriate?

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