Is Usenet an option for /Piracy?

Usenet is unmoderated. Once you post it, it sticks forever. We could probably get one of the independent providers to give free access to a new newsgroup. Anyone have any thoughts?

I’ve used Usenet for my content needs for years because it’s so fast and risk free. I think we could also use it for our community discussions.

icongnu,
@icongnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Usenet is fine for downloading but getting providers these days involve paying for it, which gates of a lot of folks. Torrenting and federated social media does not.

float,

Is torrenting really free though? VPNs and seedboxes are not and torrenting without any of those is a bad idea in many countries. Usenet is quite cheap. I use both but I prefer the usenet tbh.

CorrodedCranium,
@CorrodedCranium@lemmy.fmhy.ml avatar

Couldn’t we all move to i2p by similar logic?

drifty,
@drifty@kbin.social avatar

i2p seems very rudimentary for piracy imo even though it has been around a long time (I have only recently ventured into the realm of i2p, so forgive me, and let me know if I am wrong)

CorrodedCranium,
@CorrodedCranium@lemmy.fmhy.ml avatar

If you are referring to the availability of torrents and people seeding compared to the regular web I think you might be right.

That said from what I’ve read you don’t need a VPN when torrenting over i2p

drifty,
@drifty@kbin.social avatar

Hi, I keep hearing this everywhere, what exactly is usenet and how do I use it? (sorry if this is derailing the point of your question)

Bjoern_Tantau,

Usenet is a very old part of the internet. I think it predates the world wide web. It's basically a message board. Which boards (like subs) exist on there is democratically decided. At least that was how it was done in Germany. For example, when there where too many Star Wars posts in the Science Fiction group de.rec.sf they decided to create one for Star Wars under de.rec.sf.starwars.

The actual content resides on newsservers around the globe. When you pass a message to one of them it is distributed around the globe to all the other servers. It's similar to how Lemmy works, with the difference that with Lemmy content is only passed around when someone is actually subscribed to a particular community.

But many news servers don't pass around messages that contain files. Because that would take up too much space. To get access to the servers that do pass around files you have to pay for the service. That is actually used for piracy nowadays.

Back in the days you could actually get access to usenet from your ISP. At least to the text only portion. Don't know how you'd do it nowadays. It's mostly fallen to obscurity.

drifty,
@drifty@kbin.social avatar

This helped me understand usenet properly, thank you. I don't see the allure of using it especially since torrents are free and largely seeded (depending on the indexer and your preference). I see why people would prefer it for more obscure stuff though.

james,

The main reason it might be used is it integrates very well with services such as Sonarr/Radarr which can auto-download TV shows/movies if you have a good indexer. That and generally the Usenet servers do not keep access logs so it tends to be a lot safer than torrenting. For software/games etc. I would stick with torrents, but for TV/Movies if you have your own server Usenet is a compelling service.

aebrer,
@aebrer@kbin.social avatar

I have used both and I don't disagree with you, but I want to say it's worth noting that torrents also work fine with Sonarr and Radarr!

james,

Good point - I did find torrents a lot more fiddly to set up though.

aebrer,
@aebrer@kbin.social avatar

Agreed again haha, it was way more fiddly (but also more free!)

These days I'm just using Stremio for my media though, with add-ons it's glorious

james,

Free is always the best price! I've been using a Sonarr/SABnzbd/Emby setup on my home built NAS (unRAID) for about 7 years now. Until recently I had about 9.5TB of shows but then got ransomwared :(. Got about 4 of it back now and counting!

aebrer,
@aebrer@kbin.social avatar

Omg that's awful 😱 sorry for your loss

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