random65837,

good points, it’s really weird as nonamerican seeing so many comments and upvotes from people justifying shooting someone just because they felt a bit threatened. Comments saying that less deadly use of force are met with downvotes.

Because it’s not in context, it never is. But tell ya what, since you (seem) to not be the standard troll that is the majority here, I’ll put it in context.

We have the right to use lethal force to defend ourselves when necessary if we “fear grave injury or death”. Feeling a “bit threatened” isn’t enough. In this case, that guy absolutely had that right. If a 5’2" 150lb guy was doing that to me, that’s a 5"10 220lb guy, I wouldn’t really have that excuse in most cases. But it totally depends on the context. The guy verbally yelled STOP, which is what any police officer or lawyer will tell you, you must make it clear they’ve been instructed to stop, he continued after him, that’s very much an attack at that point. People like to pretend that they know it’d all work out fine, until it doesn’t and it’s too late.

It’s not about being “pro” deadly self-defense, that’s the political mindset, it’s just about self defense. That moron put himself into this situation, that was incredibly stupid and dangerous, and it didn’t end well for him. Other countries and even our news when left leaning politically would have you think we live on cowboy times with shootouts in the street daily, do you think anybody would want to live here if that’s what it was really like? The overwhelming majority of the country is safe for the residents, tourists, and everybody else.

The problem is the major cities with terrible areas in them and gangs most of the time. Even then, selective reporting on that can make it look way different than it is in real life. Same goes with categorizing suicides as gun deaths, instead of gun suicides. A suicidal person is going to wind up dead, gun or not. Again, people have political gain from blaming the tool for the deed rather than the common sense of blaming the person for their actions.

The reason people are so pro, is because of the history of terrible things happening to people in states that heavily restrict gun use, and those people being killed probably because of that. Would a gun guarantee them being alive, no. Would it greatly improve that chance, yes. Even if assholes in a home invasion were also armed, I’ll take 50/50 odds over 100/0 any day.

Now if you go to a complete warzone shithole like L.A., Chicago, parts of NYC, ya, it’s not good. But show me a country with places people shouldn’t stay away from. Given our size, and that the overwhelming majority of the country is statically very safe, don’t believe what you read.

Americans are always going to be quick to get pissed off with this shit, because we’re relentlessly attacked from foreigners with no clue what it’s like here, and our wonderful America hating Americans that hate our constitution and are trying to eradicate it. That one doesn’t stop at guns either.

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