youronlyone,
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Timecop (1994)

Do I rate this based on the present (2023) or when I first saw this in 1994? I guess the latter, so it will be fair, an 8 out of 10. Many are raising and giving bad reviews about this show, but I think it is unfair. This was an early 1990s movie. Movies people are rating today will be just as a “bad” as they described 30 years from now.

That out of the way. It was nostalgic, re-watching this 29 years later. I was reminded of how people think of time travel back then, with not so much a worry about the grandfather paradox, and more about ripples in time.

We've come a long way, not just in movie making, storytelling, but also in how we perceive time and time travel. Yet, the ideas from the 20th Century is as valid today as it was before, only better and more mind-boggling.

If they reboot this, either as a new movie or a TV series, I wonder how it will be reinterpreted. Or maybe, one just have to watch the Korean TV sci-fi “Sisyphus: The Myth” to have a glimpse of what it can be. ^_~

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quanta,
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@youronlyone @films @film @movies @movies Some movies - even ones about time travel - don't travel so well down the years.
There might be subtleties that belong to their era that simply lose their relevance.
What makes a movie timeless? As an amateur filmmaker I'd be interested in your opinions.

youronlyone,
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Yep, it comes down to the era.

For me, a movie (or a song) is timeless if it resonates to the audience regardless of the era.

It might be because a certain social issue is still common in the latter eras (hopefully not because that means we haven't learned as human beings). Or the message or lesson is relevant regardless, say about life, relationships, family, neurodivergence, to mention a few.

If the work is based on a franchise, like the Marvel movies, the entertainment value would be king in this case. Although one can insert a message or lesson to make it even more than being simply for entertainment.

Lastly, and this one is not easy I think, if it makes a mark in history. Or there's a cult following. These are like Timecop, Back to the Future, and the TV series Fringe and the 12 Monkeys. There are also Battlestar Galactica, Highlander, StarGate, Babylon 5.

Though these were created decades ago, they left us wanting. They gave us a vision of what can, or could, be. To the point that, even though live-action production has improved leaps ahead, these are still worth watching again to get a glimpse of that era.

Even in anime, works like Evangelion, Rurouni Kenshin (Samurai X), Serial Experiments Lain, and the iconic Grave of the Fireflies, are some works that I think will be watched again and again in the next 500 years. Probably in some holodeck, where one can fully immerse (like in Star Trek).

^_^

quanta,
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@youronlyone @films @film @movies @movies I guess the complexity of human relationships will never change, which is why Shakespeare continues to resonate.
Lesson there for me: Build your plot on top of human-human relationships and conflict, not the other way round.

youronlyone,
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@quanta

Yep! Best summary!

I think it's why is popular these days, they focus on human-human relationships in every story they create. Like, yes, Shakespeare. It isn't about immersion; it's about resonating with your audience.

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