danielton,
@danielton@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve had kiosks prompt me for tips, even making me hit Custom and type 0.00.

I’m so tired of Wall Street Journal, Readers Digest, Square, and Clover pushing the idea that we need to tip everybody everywhere because covid. It’s ridiculous. I don’t want to live in a country where everybody behind a counter can be paid $2.13 an hour.

SimplyATable,

That’s only if you live in a state where they’re allowed to pay that

danielton,
@danielton@lemmy.world avatar

Which is still the majority of them.

PunnyName, (edited )

One thought that could change this whole thing:

Paying higher wages.

It’s a crazy idea!

danielton,
@danielton@lemmy.world avatar

Right? It’s not covid. The media and Square are helping employers get away with shit wages.

Colorcodedresistor,

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  • PunnyName,

    Prices went up anyway. Minimum wage increases aren’t a permanent fix, of course.

    But let’s do them anyway, and stop trying to predict the future.

    BCsven,

    I don’t tgink tipping is responsible for that low a wage. in BC Canada its almost $16 min wage, plus tips

    danielton,
    @danielton@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m talking about the US, of course. Most states still allow employers to pay “tipped employees” $2.13 an hour.

    BCsven,

    Yep, but the underlying problem is not tipping, it is just shitty US laws, otherwise we would see the same low wage in Canada because tip culture is the same

    danielton,
    @danielton@lemmy.world avatar

    Tipping culture is a thing in Canada only because of its proximity to the US. It’s not a thing in the rest of the world. Tipping always pushes wages down because why would employers need to pay more when employees get tips?

    The whole tipping thing started as a way for restaurant owners to pay their servers less (or nothing). It needs to go.

    BCsven,

    it didn’t start that way, it was a way to ensure prompt attentive service, it was on the table at the start so staff saw a bonus coming for being very attentive. Not saying that is a good way either, but USA has allowed it to drive down wages. Here minimum wage is almost identical across the country regardless of job type.

    danielton,
    @danielton@lemmy.world avatar

    Are tips mandatory in Canada like they are here in the US? If yes, then customers are still subsidizing employee wages.

    BCsven,

    Suggested, not mandatory. Some places have stopped allowing tips being accepted by staff.

    dontcarebear,

    Tips are crowd funding service employees, and the moral responsibility is on the customer.

    It is a disgustingly greedy move.

    If I’m paying for the service, I might as well pay the chef and give the owner fuck-all.

    danielton,
    @danielton@lemmy.world avatar

    The sad thing is, enough Americans think being able to tip everybody more easily is a great thing, so this is only going to continue to get worse.

    awol,

    "You kids better stay off my lawn!"

    Thedogspaw,
    @Thedogspaw@midwest.social avatar

    Does it count as scowling if thats just your natural face🤔

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