immigrish, 10 months ago

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Elative is /ˈiːlətɪv/ in British English whereas illative is /ɪˈleɪtiv/

In American English it's /ˈelətɪv/ for elative, but illative is /'ɪlətɪv/ or /ɪˈleɪtiv/

Azmazing1, 10 months ago

@immigrish @serlwch @linguistics @languagelovers The US English dictionary of record is sometimes considered to be Merriam-Webster (see pronunciations): https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/illative, https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/elative

immigrish, 10 months ago

@Azmazing1 @serlwch @linguistics @languagelovers yes. This was my source for the American pronunciation I simply used standard phonemic script rather than the script used in the Merriam Webster dictionary.

Azmazing1, 10 months ago

@immigrish @serlwch @linguistics @languagelovers Ah, got it. I would read MW / ˈē-lə-tiv/ as IPA /ˈiːlətɪv/ and MW /'i-lə-tiv/ as IPA /ˈɪlətɪv/, first-syllable stressed, only with differing vowels [iː / ɪ].

serlwch, 10 months ago

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My source was Wiktionary, which lists both illative and elative as /ɪˈleɪtɪv/ in UK pronunciation. Perhaps there’s dialectal variation within the UK with this regard. The Wiktionarian who added the pronunciation information for both is I'm so meta even this acronym, who is a native speaker of Welsh and English (see here and here).