uthredii,

Link to the tyre extinguishers website: www.tyreextinguishers.com

regul,

inb4 the Tories offer tax credits for SUVs

Player2,

Tax them all the way to hell

Eq0,

I’m glad to see this discussion starting gathering attention. In general, I think we should start looking more and more at car sharing over car owning: nobody needs an SUV every day, but you might enjoy a longer trip driving one. So short term rental should be incentivized to decrease the overall number of cars on the road and parking lots.

doublejay1999,
@doublejay1999@lemmy.world avatar

Attacking SUV drivers is precisely the wrong way to go about reversing the surrender of the public realm to the automobile and it is exactly the right way to start another immature culture war , alienating a lot of potential allies in the fight to reclaim out streets .

Tvkan,

Fully agree. SUVs aren’t bad because they’re a few percent bigger/heavier/safer/less efficient/… than other cars, they’re bad because they are cars.

Many discussions on SUVs in particular give the impression that a “normal” car is somehow the sane, efficient alternative, which just isn’t the case.

PlexSheep,
@PlexSheep@feddit.de avatar

They are bad because they are cars, but in the realms of car usage, they are ultra bad because they are even bigger steel death machines.

doublejay1999,
@doublejay1999@lemmy.world avatar

A street filled with VW Golfs instead of Land rovers, still afforded the vast majority of space in town, still given priority at every turn and still transporting one or two people at a time, doesn’t move us much further forwards .

papabobolious,

a normal car is a much more sane and efficient alternative, that might be where you are getting that idea.

frankPodmore,
@frankPodmore@slrpnk.net avatar

Exactly this. There are some clear use cases for cars and even for SUVs (possibly only if you literally live or work on a large farm). There’s no case for driving an SUV in a city. It’s antisocial behaviour at best and actively threatening at worst!

doublejay1999,
@doublejay1999@lemmy.world avatar

Swapping land rovers for golf’s gets us practically nowhere

frankPodmore, (edited )
@frankPodmore@slrpnk.net avatar

It makes the roads safer and that saves lives. It reduces pollution, saving more lives. It also saves space. That doesn’t save lives, granted, but it’s still a good thing.

If we accept any use cases for cars (and I do, personally), even if it’s primarily in the short to medium term while we build better urban infrastructure, then we should also advocate for those cars to be as small, as safe and as clean as possible.

frankPodmore,
@frankPodmore@slrpnk.net avatar

To be honest, I’m sick of trying to politely persuade people to stop killing other people with their idiotic cars. All cars are bad, yes. SUVs are the worst. It’s perfectly reasonable to try to solve a wicked problem by going for the worst offenders first.

hellothere, (edited )

As is covered in the article, explaining the environmental impact of SUVs to SUV owners does not change their mind or encourage them to get a different car; it is effectively ignored.

So that is where ideas like the deflators come in, you make it more inconvenient, maybe that will work where polite discussion did not.

biddy,

Perhaps, but polite persuasion hasn’t worked either

bit_thanos,

Time to buy SUVs :)

MrFlamey,

Dude, you misspelled “burn”

  • All
  • Subscribed
  • Moderated
  • Favorites
  • random
  • uselessserver093
  • Food
  • aaaaaaacccccccce
  • [email protected]
  • test
  • CafeMeta
  • testmag
  • MUD
  • RhythmGameZone
  • RSS
  • dabs
  • Socialism
  • KbinCafe
  • TheResearchGuardian
  • oklahoma
  • feritale
  • SuperSentai
  • KamenRider
  • All magazines